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Reviewed through NPP. Unlike
Dylan Brady (producer), whose solo projects have gotten some coverage, I'm unable to find any coverage of Laura Les that isn't in the context of her band,
100 gecs. Per
WP:MUSICBIO, Note that members of notable bands are redirected to the band's article, not given individual articles, unless they have demonstrated individual notability for activity independent of the band, such as solo releases.Spicy (
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17:02, 28 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Keep. This article might be brief, but due to her growing popularity, it has tons of plausible potential for growth.
Keep. Laura's solo work (mostly as her former stage name, osno1) has gotten coverage in Vice, BBC Radio 1, Underground Underdogs, The Sun Star, and more. — Preceding
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Naomigt (
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22:02, 2 August 2020 (UTC)reply
Naomigt, can you provide links to these sources? I searched for sources covering her solo work, including under her former name, but I wasn't able to find any. I found
this BBC Radio 1 link, but it's just a playlist of her songs; there's no actual coverage of her. This from Vice does cover her, but it's an interview, which isn't usually considered to be an independent source, and thus doesn't contribute to notability (
WP:INTERVIEW.)
The Sun Star is a student paper, generally not considered to be the sort of source that demonstrates that a subject is notable.
Spicy (
talk)
22:09, 2 August 2020 (UTC)reply
Spicy,
here is the Undeground Underdogs article which does cover her solo work, but also has interview components which, as you mentioned, may lead to it not counting as an independent source.
This Lyrical Lemonade article covers her solo music. Although
this article does mention Les amongst other artists and mentions her work with Brady in 100 Gecs, it does also cover rather extensively the progression of Les' solo music as osno1 (including a deconstruction of her production style, her voice, her status as a queer artist— and, importantly, her notability within the community). Important to note that this last source appears to be on a blog, which may count as it being "self-published" per
WP:MUSICBIO.
Naomigt (
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00:00, 3 August 2020 (UTC)reply
I appreciate your taking the time to look for sources and analyze their coverage. Unfortunately, I don't think any of these would be considered reliable. As you note, the last source is a blog; Lyrical Lemonade apparently is a one-person operation, verging on
WP:SPS and doesn't seem to have any editorial policy; and according to their contact page,
Underground Underdogs is an amateur publication with no real editorial control. There's no doubt that her solo work is popular in the underground scene and has been covered on blogs and such, but I'm just not seeing the sort of in-depth coverage in major, reliable publications that is needed to prove notability, especially for
biographies of living persons.
Spicy (
talk)
02:47, 3 August 2020 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
Reviewed through NPP. Unlike
Dylan Brady (producer), whose solo projects have gotten some coverage, I'm unable to find any coverage of Laura Les that isn't in the context of her band,
100 gecs. Per
WP:MUSICBIO, Note that members of notable bands are redirected to the band's article, not given individual articles, unless they have demonstrated individual notability for activity independent of the band, such as solo releases.Spicy (
talk)
17:02, 28 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Keep. This article might be brief, but due to her growing popularity, it has tons of plausible potential for growth.
Keep. Laura's solo work (mostly as her former stage name, osno1) has gotten coverage in Vice, BBC Radio 1, Underground Underdogs, The Sun Star, and more. — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
Naomigt (
talk •
contribs)
22:02, 2 August 2020 (UTC)reply
Naomigt, can you provide links to these sources? I searched for sources covering her solo work, including under her former name, but I wasn't able to find any. I found
this BBC Radio 1 link, but it's just a playlist of her songs; there's no actual coverage of her. This from Vice does cover her, but it's an interview, which isn't usually considered to be an independent source, and thus doesn't contribute to notability (
WP:INTERVIEW.)
The Sun Star is a student paper, generally not considered to be the sort of source that demonstrates that a subject is notable.
Spicy (
talk)
22:09, 2 August 2020 (UTC)reply
Spicy,
here is the Undeground Underdogs article which does cover her solo work, but also has interview components which, as you mentioned, may lead to it not counting as an independent source.
This Lyrical Lemonade article covers her solo music. Although
this article does mention Les amongst other artists and mentions her work with Brady in 100 Gecs, it does also cover rather extensively the progression of Les' solo music as osno1 (including a deconstruction of her production style, her voice, her status as a queer artist— and, importantly, her notability within the community). Important to note that this last source appears to be on a blog, which may count as it being "self-published" per
WP:MUSICBIO.
Naomigt (
talk •
contribs)
00:00, 3 August 2020 (UTC)reply
I appreciate your taking the time to look for sources and analyze their coverage. Unfortunately, I don't think any of these would be considered reliable. As you note, the last source is a blog; Lyrical Lemonade apparently is a one-person operation, verging on
WP:SPS and doesn't seem to have any editorial policy; and according to their contact page,
Underground Underdogs is an amateur publication with no real editorial control. There's no doubt that her solo work is popular in the underground scene and has been covered on blogs and such, but I'm just not seeing the sort of in-depth coverage in major, reliable publications that is needed to prove notability, especially for
biographies of living persons.
Spicy (
talk)
02:47, 3 August 2020 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
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