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The result was keep. I read the consensus of editors here that this article should be Kept. Liz Read! Talk! 04:37, 12 September 2023 (UTC)
Kukaracha (film)
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Prod contested, more sources added since Prod, but all of them are trivial. Still seeing no SIGCOV, zero passable sources, see source analysis. WP:GNG and WP:NFILM fail
| Source | Significant? | Independent? | Reliable? | Secondary? | Pass/Fail | Notes |
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| Literary Portal |  |
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A short plot summary of the movie and a passing mention that it is faithful to the book. Literature database that feels more tertiary than secondary |
| The Current Digest of the Soviet Press | |
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A single sentence stating the story is "appealing" |
| Georgian Journal | |
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A listicle of "The best-looking Georgian actors of all time" passing mention of the actors being in the film |
| Obituary | |
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An obituary for an actress in the film, again a single passing mention of her being in the film |
| Los Angeles Times | |
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Certainly in depth of the actor it is a piece on, but again, a single, trivial mention of the film |
| Historical dictionary of Georgia | |
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Trivial mentions in a tertiary source, passing mentions as acting credits |
| Total qualifying sources | 0 | There must be multiple qualifying sources to meet the notability requirements
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- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Film and Georgia (country). IceBergYYC ( talk) 13:10, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
- Keep. All in all sources would tend to prove the film is notable. But also, and most of all, it received the Award for the best adaptation at the 1983
All-Union Film Festival. (See
here for a source) So that the page meets the following requirement for notability of films: "The film has received a major award for excellence in some aspect of filmmaking". The film is also
Siko Dolidze’s last film. See also
this for example. -
My, oh my!
(Mushy Yank)
15:35, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
- I'm not sure I'd classify "Best Adaptation" at a now defunct, borderline non-notable soviet-bloc film festival to be a major award.
IceBergYYC (
talk)
16:41, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
- Well, I am sure I would. And that festival is very notable! Please look it up. No further comment. - My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 16:49, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
- I'm not sure I'd classify "Best Adaptation" at a now defunct, borderline non-notable soviet-bloc film festival to be a major award.
IceBergYYC (
talk)
16:41, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗ plicit 14:06, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
- Keep - notable per the All-Union Film Festival award. That notable festival was a big deal in the Soviet Union, a country of 200+ million.
- -- A. B. ( talk • contribs • global count) 14:21, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Eddie891 Talk Work 19:52, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
- Keep. As an older film not in English language, not even using Latin or Cyrillic alphabet, this meets WP:NFO.3 by winning one of the most important film awards in the Soviet Union. The importance of the award can be established, eg by this Taylor & Francis book [1]. Apparently important enough that post-Soviet Union it's been replaced by 3: Kinotavr, Kinoshock, and Vivat, Kino Rossii. Note also that this film received the award prior to the establishment of the Nika Award. — siro χ o 05:00, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
- Keep - meets major award test WilsonP NYC ( talk) 22:43, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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The result was keep. I read the consensus of editors here that this article should be Kept. Liz Read! Talk! 04:37, 12 September 2023 (UTC)
Kukaracha (film)
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Prod contested, more sources added since Prod, but all of them are trivial. Still seeing no SIGCOV, zero passable sources, see source analysis. WP:GNG and WP:NFILM fail
| Source | Significant? | Independent? | Reliable? | Secondary? | Pass/Fail | Notes |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Literary Portal | |
|
|
|
|
A short plot summary of the movie and a passing mention that it is faithful to the book. Literature database that feels more tertiary than secondary |
| The Current Digest of the Soviet Press | |
|
|
|
|
A single sentence stating the story is "appealing" |
| Georgian Journal | |
|
|
|
|
A listicle of "The best-looking Georgian actors of all time" passing mention of the actors being in the film |
| Obituary | |
|
|
|
|
An obituary for an actress in the film, again a single passing mention of her being in the film |
| Los Angeles Times | |
|
|
|
|
Certainly in depth of the actor it is a piece on, but again, a single, trivial mention of the film |
| Historical dictionary of Georgia | |
|
|
|
|
Trivial mentions in a tertiary source, passing mentions as acting credits |
| Total qualifying sources | 0 | There must be multiple qualifying sources to meet the notability requirements
| ||||
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Film and Georgia (country). IceBergYYC ( talk) 13:10, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
- Keep. All in all sources would tend to prove the film is notable. But also, and most of all, it received the Award for the best adaptation at the 1983
All-Union Film Festival. (See
here for a source) So that the page meets the following requirement for notability of films: "The film has received a major award for excellence in some aspect of filmmaking". The film is also
Siko Dolidze’s last film. See also
this for example. -
My, oh my!
(Mushy Yank)
15:35, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
- I'm not sure I'd classify "Best Adaptation" at a now defunct, borderline non-notable soviet-bloc film festival to be a major award.
IceBergYYC (
talk)
16:41, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
- Well, I am sure I would. And that festival is very notable! Please look it up. No further comment. - My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 16:49, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
- I'm not sure I'd classify "Best Adaptation" at a now defunct, borderline non-notable soviet-bloc film festival to be a major award.
IceBergYYC (
talk)
16:41, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗ plicit 14:06, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
- Keep - notable per the All-Union Film Festival award. That notable festival was a big deal in the Soviet Union, a country of 200+ million.
- -- A. B. ( talk • contribs • global count) 14:21, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Eddie891 Talk Work 19:52, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
- Keep. As an older film not in English language, not even using Latin or Cyrillic alphabet, this meets WP:NFO.3 by winning one of the most important film awards in the Soviet Union. The importance of the award can be established, eg by this Taylor & Francis book [1]. Apparently important enough that post-Soviet Union it's been replaced by 3: Kinotavr, Kinoshock, and Vivat, Kino Rossii. Note also that this film received the award prior to the establishment of the Nika Award. — siro χ o 05:00, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
- Keep - meets major award test WilsonP NYC ( talk) 22:43, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.