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The result was no consensus which does not preclude a discussion on the talk about whether it's worth covering elsewhere. Otherwise no objection to a renomination if someone thinks more input is forthcoming. StarMississippi02:15, 9 August 2022 (UTC)reply
Delete. Probably doesn't even rate a redirect to Kraft Foods. The nextweb source above is a bare mention, everything else is just blogs.
valereee (
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14:21, 19 July 2022 (UTC)reply
Weak keep. It gets short entries in From Abba to Zoom: A Pop Culture Encyclopedia of the Late 20th Century[2] and Creamy and Crunchy: An Informal History of Peanut Butter, the All-American Food[3]. I'm seeing a <amended>Consumer Reports article</amended> in a lot of bibliographies entitled "Koogle: Does it Pass the Peanut Butter Test?", for instance it is the reference to
this passing mention, but I haven't found an online copy. It was clearly well known in the 1970s and heavily advertised on TV, but I suspect there is only material for a very short page available now, unless Kraft publish some of their primary source material revealing its history and why they took it off the market.
SpinningSpark15:56, 2 August 2022 (UTC)reply
An entry in an encyclopaedia under a headword is not a passing mention, even if short, because the entry is about that topic. In Wikipedia, we might call such entries stubs. The Consumer Reports article I referred to is definitely not a passing mention, it's just not online. One can't write a magazine article on a product and then only mention it.
SpinningSpark06:52, 3 August 2022 (UTC)reply
The Informal History seems like a passing mention, though, no? It's basically an entry on a timeline, the entirety of which, 2 sentences, reads: 1975 - Kraft introduces Koogle, the first commercial flavored peanut spread, in four flavors, cinnamon, banana, chocolate, and vanilla. Consumer Reports turns thumbs down, saying, "Nutrition and taste argue against buying Koogle." Based on that, do we really need to go find this Consumer Reports review? And yes the entry in Pop Culture Encyclopedia seems to indeed be a stub, which is kind of another way of saying trivial, it's also 2 sentences, verbatim is: "Peanut Butter Koogle with the goo goo googly eyes!" A Baby Boomer lunchtime favorite in the 1970s was the peanut butter spread in a jar with swirls of chocolate, banana, cinnamon, or strawberry jelly mixed in. I guess they liked it better than Consumer's. I still think this is a trivial mention - the "encyclopedia" itself is 560 pages, I think it's more of a pop coffee table book IMHO, not
World Book or
Britannica. It feels like a huge stretch to me still. Andrevan@07:04, 3 August 2022 (UTC)reply
My vote was weak keep. It was weak for a reason. I already said in my initial post these entries were short. There is no need for you to carry on picking over it and creating a wall of text over something I already know and have already said.
SpinningSpark07:32, 3 August 2022 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was no consensus which does not preclude a discussion on the talk about whether it's worth covering elsewhere. Otherwise no objection to a renomination if someone thinks more input is forthcoming. StarMississippi02:15, 9 August 2022 (UTC)reply
Delete. Probably doesn't even rate a redirect to Kraft Foods. The nextweb source above is a bare mention, everything else is just blogs.
valereee (
talk)
14:21, 19 July 2022 (UTC)reply
Weak keep. It gets short entries in From Abba to Zoom: A Pop Culture Encyclopedia of the Late 20th Century[2] and Creamy and Crunchy: An Informal History of Peanut Butter, the All-American Food[3]. I'm seeing a <amended>Consumer Reports article</amended> in a lot of bibliographies entitled "Koogle: Does it Pass the Peanut Butter Test?", for instance it is the reference to
this passing mention, but I haven't found an online copy. It was clearly well known in the 1970s and heavily advertised on TV, but I suspect there is only material for a very short page available now, unless Kraft publish some of their primary source material revealing its history and why they took it off the market.
SpinningSpark15:56, 2 August 2022 (UTC)reply
An entry in an encyclopaedia under a headword is not a passing mention, even if short, because the entry is about that topic. In Wikipedia, we might call such entries stubs. The Consumer Reports article I referred to is definitely not a passing mention, it's just not online. One can't write a magazine article on a product and then only mention it.
SpinningSpark06:52, 3 August 2022 (UTC)reply
The Informal History seems like a passing mention, though, no? It's basically an entry on a timeline, the entirety of which, 2 sentences, reads: 1975 - Kraft introduces Koogle, the first commercial flavored peanut spread, in four flavors, cinnamon, banana, chocolate, and vanilla. Consumer Reports turns thumbs down, saying, "Nutrition and taste argue against buying Koogle." Based on that, do we really need to go find this Consumer Reports review? And yes the entry in Pop Culture Encyclopedia seems to indeed be a stub, which is kind of another way of saying trivial, it's also 2 sentences, verbatim is: "Peanut Butter Koogle with the goo goo googly eyes!" A Baby Boomer lunchtime favorite in the 1970s was the peanut butter spread in a jar with swirls of chocolate, banana, cinnamon, or strawberry jelly mixed in. I guess they liked it better than Consumer's. I still think this is a trivial mention - the "encyclopedia" itself is 560 pages, I think it's more of a pop coffee table book IMHO, not
World Book or
Britannica. It feels like a huge stretch to me still. Andrevan@07:04, 3 August 2022 (UTC)reply
My vote was weak keep. It was weak for a reason. I already said in my initial post these entries were short. There is no need for you to carry on picking over it and creating a wall of text over something I already know and have already said.
SpinningSpark07:32, 3 August 2022 (UTC)reply
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