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The result was delete. King of ♠ 00:16, 2 May 2014 (UTC) reply

Knifer (musical)

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A lack of independent reliable sources, fails WP:GNG. Flat Out let's discuss it 12:11, 10 April 2014 (UTC) reply

I had quoted from the original theatre programme, but the references have been removed. I will reinstate them. I have also seen the production a few times, and so I have first-hand experience of it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Introspecta ( talkcontribs) 12:29, 10 April 2014 (UTC) reply
Comment sources need to be verifiable. Please read WP:42. Flat Out let's discuss it 12:32, 10 April 2014 (UTC) reply
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Would it be acceptable to have more information about this musical on Steven Moffat's page, rather than it having its own page? Or would the sources still need to be independent, etc? Introspecta ( talk) 09:46, 11 April 2014 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete - I'm unable to locate coverage in reliable sources for this musical; does not appear to meet WP:GNG.  Gongshow    talk 07:54, 24 April 2014 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete: I was also unable to find anything on this, apart from passing mentions. I wouldn't merge any of the information with Stephen Moffatt, because it would be excessive detail. The current mention in his article is sufficient. Moswento talky 13:43, 25 April 2014 (UTC) reply
  • Unless someone can come up with some kind of independent coverage of this—even a review in the paper would be nice—it will be hard to justify keeping this. That's too bad, because I suspect readers interested in Moffatt and Dr. Who will come around looking for information about this early and unusual endeavor. But it is difficult to see how to fit any more of this info into the Steven Moffatt article: we could add a footnote if there were an appropriate source where readers could be sent for more information, but that's just the problem—it seems that there isn't any such source. -- Arxiloxos ( talk) 14:42, 25 April 2014 (UTC) reply
I've just come across newspaper articles with mentions of Knifer. I'll try and add it to the page, and you can see if that's enough. Introspecta ( talk) 11:23, 28 April 2014 (UTC) reply
I couldn't work out how to reference it properly. Could someone help me with it? Introspecta ( talk) 11:39, 28 April 2014 (UTC) reply
I've fixed the reference. As it's only an article in a local newspaper, it's not enough to demonstrate notability. You would need something regional or national as well. Moswento talky 12:38, 28 April 2014 (UTC) reply
Thanks for fixing it. It was worth a shot. Introspecta ( talk) 14:40, 28 April 2014 (UTC) reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. King of ♠ 00:16, 2 May 2014 (UTC) reply

Knifer (musical)

Knifer (musical) (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
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A lack of independent reliable sources, fails WP:GNG. Flat Out let's discuss it 12:11, 10 April 2014 (UTC) reply

I had quoted from the original theatre programme, but the references have been removed. I will reinstate them. I have also seen the production a few times, and so I have first-hand experience of it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Introspecta ( talkcontribs) 12:29, 10 April 2014 (UTC) reply
Comment sources need to be verifiable. Please read WP:42. Flat Out let's discuss it 12:32, 10 April 2014 (UTC) reply
Note: This debate has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 16:13, 10 April 2014 (UTC) reply
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Arts-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 16:14, 10 April 2014 (UTC) reply
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 16:14, 10 April 2014 (UTC) reply
Would it be acceptable to have more information about this musical on Steven Moffat's page, rather than it having its own page? Or would the sources still need to be independent, etc? Introspecta ( talk) 09:46, 11 April 2014 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Randykitty ( talk) 14:06, 18 April 2014 (UTC) reply

  • Delete - I'm unable to locate coverage in reliable sources for this musical; does not appear to meet WP:GNG.  Gongshow    talk 07:54, 24 April 2014 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, King of ♠ 01:11, 25 April 2014 (UTC) reply

  • Delete: I was also unable to find anything on this, apart from passing mentions. I wouldn't merge any of the information with Stephen Moffatt, because it would be excessive detail. The current mention in his article is sufficient. Moswento talky 13:43, 25 April 2014 (UTC) reply
  • Unless someone can come up with some kind of independent coverage of this—even a review in the paper would be nice—it will be hard to justify keeping this. That's too bad, because I suspect readers interested in Moffatt and Dr. Who will come around looking for information about this early and unusual endeavor. But it is difficult to see how to fit any more of this info into the Steven Moffatt article: we could add a footnote if there were an appropriate source where readers could be sent for more information, but that's just the problem—it seems that there isn't any such source. -- Arxiloxos ( talk) 14:42, 25 April 2014 (UTC) reply
I've just come across newspaper articles with mentions of Knifer. I'll try and add it to the page, and you can see if that's enough. Introspecta ( talk) 11:23, 28 April 2014 (UTC) reply
I couldn't work out how to reference it properly. Could someone help me with it? Introspecta ( talk) 11:39, 28 April 2014 (UTC) reply
I've fixed the reference. As it's only an article in a local newspaper, it's not enough to demonstrate notability. You would need something regional or national as well. Moswento talky 12:38, 28 April 2014 (UTC) reply
Thanks for fixing it. It was worth a shot. Introspecta ( talk) 14:40, 28 April 2014 (UTC) reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

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