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The result was keep. Pburka's assessment has remained uncontested. Sandstein 19:25, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
Kitty Empire
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PRODded twice after the last AfD in December 2010, once in October 2018 and again today. Was redirected unilaterally in July 2014 for lack of secondary sources, but was restored at Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2015_January_14#Kitty_Empire. – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 07:17, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
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- Comment: I note that previous AfDs have resulted in this article being redirected to The Observer – bear in mind that Ms Empire named herself after a track on a Big Black album, so that album could be considered an equally valid redirect target. Richard3120 ( talk) 00:59, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
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WP:NAUTHOR#1. There's surprisingly little written about Ms. Empire herself; perhaps this is by choice: she does write using a pseudonym. However a Google Scholar search reveals how influential she is as her reviews are widely cited in both popular and academic works. Writing in
Popular Music v.36, Powers and Perchard call her "one of the UK's comparatively few broadsheet pop critics, and one of the most insightful". Schott discusses one of her reviews in
Celebrity Studies v.10 no.1. Stevenson describes one of her reviews in his chapter in
David Bowie (Taylor & Francis, 2015). She's quoted and cited by Neal in
Journal for the Study of Race, Nation and Culture v.22 no.2. She's quoted again in
From Feminist Mothers to Feminist Monsters (Springer, 2017). And one of her reviews is positively reviewed by Hogarth in
Writing Feature Articles (Routledge, 2019). These are just a few examples, but I think they're sufficient to show that Empire "is regarded as an important figure" and "is widely cited by peers or successors."
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- Note: I think the sources I identified are sufficient to write a substantial "Critical reception" section, and I intend to spend some time on that if the page is kept. pburka ( talk) 17:25, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
- Keep per pburka and my review of GScholar - WP:NAUTHOR#1 is supported by WP:SUSTAINED and wide citations by peers or successors. Beccaynr ( talk) 00:18, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
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The result was keep. Pburka's assessment has remained uncontested. Sandstein 19:25, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
Kitty Empire
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PRODded twice after the last AfD in December 2010, once in October 2018 and again today. Was redirected unilaterally in July 2014 for lack of secondary sources, but was restored at Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2015_January_14#Kitty_Empire. – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 07:17, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
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- Comment: I note that previous AfDs have resulted in this article being redirected to The Observer – bear in mind that Ms Empire named herself after a track on a Big Black album, so that album could be considered an equally valid redirect target. Richard3120 ( talk) 00:59, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
- Keep per
WP:NAUTHOR#1. There's surprisingly little written about Ms. Empire herself; perhaps this is by choice: she does write using a pseudonym. However a Google Scholar search reveals how influential she is as her reviews are widely cited in both popular and academic works. Writing in
Popular Music v.36, Powers and Perchard call her "one of the UK's comparatively few broadsheet pop critics, and one of the most insightful". Schott discusses one of her reviews in
Celebrity Studies v.10 no.1. Stevenson describes one of her reviews in his chapter in
David Bowie (Taylor & Francis, 2015). She's quoted and cited by Neal in
Journal for the Study of Race, Nation and Culture v.22 no.2. She's quoted again in
From Feminist Mothers to Feminist Monsters (Springer, 2017). And one of her reviews is positively reviewed by Hogarth in
Writing Feature Articles (Routledge, 2019). These are just a few examples, but I think they're sufficient to show that Empire "is regarded as an important figure" and "is widely cited by peers or successors."
pburka (
talk)
14:30, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
- Note: I think the sources I identified are sufficient to write a substantial "Critical reception" section, and I intend to spend some time on that if the page is kept. pburka ( talk) 17:25, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
- Keep per pburka and my review of GScholar - WP:NAUTHOR#1 is supported by WP:SUSTAINED and wide citations by peers or successors. Beccaynr ( talk) 00:18, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
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