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The result was speedy keep. Nomination withdrawn. ( non-admin closure) Magnolia677 ( talk) 19:34, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
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I cannot find RS for this place. It does not appear on a map and the only non-GNIS source talks about Kirk Germany, and seems to reveal that this was a railroad whistle-stop. Also: The coordinates in this article lead elsewhere Lightburst ( talk) 22:34, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Geography and Kentucky. Lightburst ( talk) 22:35, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
- Keep, considering someone has added more sources. Though there may not be much left of Kirk, it certainly existed. Generally we keep articles about populated places. Sionk ( talk) 23:20, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
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Firsfron and
Sionk: Have you gone through the sources? I am not seeing anything we can use to write an article - one source is The Attorneys List? Another is a name drop, two others are offline. If I can see this was a notable place with one in depth source I will withdraw. My before has not uncovered what Firsfron has called, "significant coverage" and I did not find any information in newspapers.
Lightburst (
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00:46, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
- I agree, the sources don't support some content. I also searched The Attorneys List and found nothing. Magnolia677 ( talk) 13:08, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
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Firsfron and
Sionk: Have you gone through the sources? I am not seeing anything we can use to write an article - one source is The Attorneys List? Another is a name drop, two others are offline. If I can see this was a notable place with one in depth source I will withdraw. My before has not uncovered what Firsfron has called, "significant coverage" and I did not find any information in newspapers.
Lightburst (
talk)
00:46, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. This can be filled in, given a week or so. Kirk was an "important town", according to one 1908 source, and there is significant coverage of the community in a 1971 history of the county. I haven't really even begun to check sources, but there's a lot to go through, here. Newspapers.com is showing many results, some of which will have relevant info. Contrary to the nomination, the words "whistle stop" were not used in the sole source this article used; instead, "village" and "community" are. This one is easily sourced. Firsfron of Ronchester 23:43, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
- Keep - Establishing notability requires proof this was a populated place (not just a commercial location), per WP:GEOLAND. This was not easy. However, here, on page 143, it lists Kirk's population at 25 in 1902. Magnolia677 ( talk) 13:05, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
- Withdraw, I see this article from 1900 calling it a village/town. Still nothing in depth but based on WP:GEOLAND we can say this existed as a village. I am disappointed in the ref bombing - some of the references are carelessly added or say nothing about the village. For instance, two maps are used to show that Kirk exists but the village does not appear on the maps, like this one from the refs in which Kirk is a road "Kirk loop". Lightburst ( talk) 18:54, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
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The result was speedy keep. Nomination withdrawn. ( non-admin closure) Magnolia677 ( talk) 19:34, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
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I cannot find RS for this place. It does not appear on a map and the only non-GNIS source talks about Kirk Germany, and seems to reveal that this was a railroad whistle-stop. Also: The coordinates in this article lead elsewhere Lightburst ( talk) 22:34, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Geography and Kentucky. Lightburst ( talk) 22:35, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
- Keep, considering someone has added more sources. Though there may not be much left of Kirk, it certainly existed. Generally we keep articles about populated places. Sionk ( talk) 23:20, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
- @
Firsfron and
Sionk: Have you gone through the sources? I am not seeing anything we can use to write an article - one source is The Attorneys List? Another is a name drop, two others are offline. If I can see this was a notable place with one in depth source I will withdraw. My before has not uncovered what Firsfron has called, "significant coverage" and I did not find any information in newspapers.
Lightburst (
talk)
00:46, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
- I agree, the sources don't support some content. I also searched The Attorneys List and found nothing. Magnolia677 ( talk) 13:08, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
- @
Firsfron and
Sionk: Have you gone through the sources? I am not seeing anything we can use to write an article - one source is The Attorneys List? Another is a name drop, two others are offline. If I can see this was a notable place with one in depth source I will withdraw. My before has not uncovered what Firsfron has called, "significant coverage" and I did not find any information in newspapers.
Lightburst (
talk)
00:46, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. This can be filled in, given a week or so. Kirk was an "important town", according to one 1908 source, and there is significant coverage of the community in a 1971 history of the county. I haven't really even begun to check sources, but there's a lot to go through, here. Newspapers.com is showing many results, some of which will have relevant info. Contrary to the nomination, the words "whistle stop" were not used in the sole source this article used; instead, "village" and "community" are. This one is easily sourced. Firsfron of Ronchester 23:43, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
- Keep - Establishing notability requires proof this was a populated place (not just a commercial location), per WP:GEOLAND. This was not easy. However, here, on page 143, it lists Kirk's population at 25 in 1902. Magnolia677 ( talk) 13:05, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
- Withdraw, I see this article from 1900 calling it a village/town. Still nothing in depth but based on WP:GEOLAND we can say this existed as a village. I am disappointed in the ref bombing - some of the references are carelessly added or say nothing about the village. For instance, two maps are used to show that Kirk exists but the village does not appear on the maps, like this one from the refs in which Kirk is a road "Kirk loop". Lightburst ( talk) 18:54, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
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