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The result was redirect to Miss Connecticut. ( non-admin closure) ansh 666 23:48, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
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Tarpey is only notable for winning Miss Connecticut. The Miss America pageant system seems to emphasize causes more than the Miss USA pageant system does, but there is no evidence that the declaration of focus on a cause for the year of holding the state title transforms into notable actions for that cause enough to get press, let alone notable actions enough to merit inclusion in an encyclopedia. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 04:17, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
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- Possibly Redirect to Miss Connecticut as a valid search term, and the subject is mentioned there. North America 1000 05:09, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
- Keep for now. Discussion about notability guidelines has already started on the Talk page for the Beauty Pageant project. No harm will be done by closing this nomination as "keep" and letting the project-level discussion take its course. NewYorkActuary ( talk) 05:29, 17 August 2016 (UTC)
- Comment -- The discussion is happening here, and there is no indication that the consensus would be that a Miss [State] would be considered notable. Thus I don't believe that suspending this AfD would serve a useful purpose. K.e.coffman ( talk) 19:18, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MBisanz talk 12:29, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
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Deletethis non-notable college student who won a minor beauty pageant. E.M.Gregory ( talk) 19:58, 31 August 2016 (UTC) Changing iVote to Redirect to Miss Connecticut where the sources can be added to her name in the list. Reasons is, she is notable for nothing beyond this pageant. E.M.Gregory ( talk) 20:20, 1 September 2016 (UTC)- Comment This is is by no means a minor beauty pageant and calling it such shows a lack of understanding of the topic. PageantUpdater ( talk) 02:59, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
- Keep Passes WP:GNG PageantUpdater ( talk) 02:37, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
- Redirect to Miss Connecticut. State pageant winners do not pass WP:GNG by themselves. Outside of this competition, she does not have any other notability it appears. RickinBaltimore ( talk) 20:53, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
- Redirect to Miss Connecticut. I do not see this article meeting GNG, as sources are either extremely local (Hartford Courant) or tabloid-like (Daily Mail; Inside Edition). Overall, it appears that this subject has not attracted significant interest from independent reliable sources. K.e.coffman ( talk) 19:22, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
- Keep Sources include in-depth, and in-depth, and in-depth, and her photo and a paragraph here, in-depth here, and having a pageant motto as "Chin up, boobs up and rock it,", well, she meets the general notability guideline.-- Tomwsulcer ( talk) 21:14, 3 September 2016 (UTC)
- Comment -- sources just above are unconvincing, They include: Stamford Advocate (local); TMZ (non RS gossip site); Daily Mail (non RS tabloid); CT Post (local), etc. If such sources were brought to a discussion on a local business, for example, the article would be deleted. BLP requirements are higher, and I'm not seeing this here. K.e.coffman ( talk) 22:04, 3 September 2016 (UTC)
- CT Post is a statewide media source. Inside Edition is a nationally syndicated program. And this is an entertainment subject so coverage in tabloid papers is perfectly reasonable, such as the Daily Mail (which is a British publication). Stamford, Connecticut is not a small town by any means, but a major NYC suburb; it's newspaper, the Stamford Advocate is a daily paper, with 15,000 readers.-- Tomwsulcer ( talk) 22:40, 3 September 2016 (UTC)
- 15,000 is very low for a daily paper. The Macomb Daily has circulation of over 70,000 and being a regular reader I know that their articles on local people, other than crime coverage, is total fluff. I would support deletion of an article on any person who had ever lived in Macomb County that had as its main source an article from the Macomb Daily. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 17:07, 5 September 2016 (UTC)
- Then shall we suppose that the Orlando Sentinel which writes in-depth about Tarpey is a local paper since it only covers Orlando, Florida -- with a measly 150,000 daily circulation. And, shall we suppose, Irish Central is a local source when it covers Tarpey in-depth because, well, it's just a local country. Or, the newspaper of Pace University is only a local school (with a measly 13,000 students) when it writes in-depth about Tarpey. And, shall we suppose that New London, Connecticut (population: 28,000) is another "local" town -- when its TV station writes in-depth about Tarpey. And I suppose USA Today doesn't count when it has Tarpey's picture here. It's all local in your view, right?-- Tomwsulcer ( talk) 18:08, 5 September 2016 (UTC)
- I don't see how the Orlando Sentinel coverage is in depth. It is one para and is sourced to Miss America's press release:
- "Hometown: Stamford, Connecticut Age: 21 Platform Issue: Our Time To Serve: Hiring and Housing Our Veterans Talent: Irish Step Dance Career Ambition: To become a Human Resources Manager of a Global Corporation (Miss America)."
- K.e.coffman ( talk) 20:30, 5 September 2016 (UTC)
- Keep, We are still in flux on the criteria for article such as these due to an open thread regarding this issue. As such (for now) this article is not non-notable. Pwolit iets ( talk) 10:09, 6 September 2016 (UTC)
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The result was redirect to Miss Connecticut. ( non-admin closure) ansh 666 23:48, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
- Kaitlyn Tarpey ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
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Tarpey is only notable for winning Miss Connecticut. The Miss America pageant system seems to emphasize causes more than the Miss USA pageant system does, but there is no evidence that the declaration of focus on a cause for the year of holding the state title transforms into notable actions for that cause enough to get press, let alone notable actions enough to merit inclusion in an encyclopedia. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 04:17, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. North America 1000 05:08, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fashion-related deletion discussions. North America 1000 05:08, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Connecticut-related deletion discussions. North America 1000 05:08, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
- Possibly Redirect to Miss Connecticut as a valid search term, and the subject is mentioned there. North America 1000 05:09, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
- Keep for now. Discussion about notability guidelines has already started on the Talk page for the Beauty Pageant project. No harm will be done by closing this nomination as "keep" and letting the project-level discussion take its course. NewYorkActuary ( talk) 05:29, 17 August 2016 (UTC)
- Comment -- The discussion is happening here, and there is no indication that the consensus would be that a Miss [State] would be considered notable. Thus I don't believe that suspending this AfD would serve a useful purpose. K.e.coffman ( talk) 19:18, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MBisanz talk 12:29, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MBisanz talk 12:29, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Beauty Pageants-related deletion discussions. PageantUpdater ( talk) 00:26, 31 August 2016 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Natg 19 ( talk) 16:44, 31 August 2016 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Natg 19 ( talk) 16:44, 31 August 2016 (UTC)
Deletethis non-notable college student who won a minor beauty pageant. E.M.Gregory ( talk) 19:58, 31 August 2016 (UTC) Changing iVote to Redirect to Miss Connecticut where the sources can be added to her name in the list. Reasons is, she is notable for nothing beyond this pageant. E.M.Gregory ( talk) 20:20, 1 September 2016 (UTC)- Comment This is is by no means a minor beauty pageant and calling it such shows a lack of understanding of the topic. PageantUpdater ( talk) 02:59, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
- Keep Passes WP:GNG PageantUpdater ( talk) 02:37, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
- Redirect to Miss Connecticut. State pageant winners do not pass WP:GNG by themselves. Outside of this competition, she does not have any other notability it appears. RickinBaltimore ( talk) 20:53, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
- Redirect to Miss Connecticut. I do not see this article meeting GNG, as sources are either extremely local (Hartford Courant) or tabloid-like (Daily Mail; Inside Edition). Overall, it appears that this subject has not attracted significant interest from independent reliable sources. K.e.coffman ( talk) 19:22, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
- Keep Sources include in-depth, and in-depth, and in-depth, and her photo and a paragraph here, in-depth here, and having a pageant motto as "Chin up, boobs up and rock it,", well, she meets the general notability guideline.-- Tomwsulcer ( talk) 21:14, 3 September 2016 (UTC)
- Comment -- sources just above are unconvincing, They include: Stamford Advocate (local); TMZ (non RS gossip site); Daily Mail (non RS tabloid); CT Post (local), etc. If such sources were brought to a discussion on a local business, for example, the article would be deleted. BLP requirements are higher, and I'm not seeing this here. K.e.coffman ( talk) 22:04, 3 September 2016 (UTC)
- CT Post is a statewide media source. Inside Edition is a nationally syndicated program. And this is an entertainment subject so coverage in tabloid papers is perfectly reasonable, such as the Daily Mail (which is a British publication). Stamford, Connecticut is not a small town by any means, but a major NYC suburb; it's newspaper, the Stamford Advocate is a daily paper, with 15,000 readers.-- Tomwsulcer ( talk) 22:40, 3 September 2016 (UTC)
- 15,000 is very low for a daily paper. The Macomb Daily has circulation of over 70,000 and being a regular reader I know that their articles on local people, other than crime coverage, is total fluff. I would support deletion of an article on any person who had ever lived in Macomb County that had as its main source an article from the Macomb Daily. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 17:07, 5 September 2016 (UTC)
- Then shall we suppose that the Orlando Sentinel which writes in-depth about Tarpey is a local paper since it only covers Orlando, Florida -- with a measly 150,000 daily circulation. And, shall we suppose, Irish Central is a local source when it covers Tarpey in-depth because, well, it's just a local country. Or, the newspaper of Pace University is only a local school (with a measly 13,000 students) when it writes in-depth about Tarpey. And, shall we suppose that New London, Connecticut (population: 28,000) is another "local" town -- when its TV station writes in-depth about Tarpey. And I suppose USA Today doesn't count when it has Tarpey's picture here. It's all local in your view, right?-- Tomwsulcer ( talk) 18:08, 5 September 2016 (UTC)
- I don't see how the Orlando Sentinel coverage is in depth. It is one para and is sourced to Miss America's press release:
- "Hometown: Stamford, Connecticut Age: 21 Platform Issue: Our Time To Serve: Hiring and Housing Our Veterans Talent: Irish Step Dance Career Ambition: To become a Human Resources Manager of a Global Corporation (Miss America)."
- K.e.coffman ( talk) 20:30, 5 September 2016 (UTC)
- Keep, We are still in flux on the criteria for article such as these due to an open thread regarding this issue. As such (for now) this article is not non-notable. Pwolit iets ( talk) 10:09, 6 September 2016 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.