The result was no consensus. and I do not see one emerging with yet another relist when the last brought on zero input. It appears that a smaller grouping might bring about a clearer decision, and the standard waiting period does not apply at the close of this AfD. Star Mississippi 23:14, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
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This AfD contains 142 articles. The lead article has been selected in alphanumeric order.
Innovate Corp., also known as HC2 Holdings, is a major owner of low-power TV stations in the United States. Its stations primarily broadcast lower-tier national digital multicast television networks, infomercials, and in some larger markets channels leased to independent programmers. However, many of the individual low-power stations lack notability. K25NG-D was deleted and turned into a redirect to a new list, List of stations owned by Innovate Corp., and Nathan Obral and I propose the same fate for 142 more individual low-power TV stations across the United States (35 states and Puerto Rico).
Many HC2 stations were built in the last 12 years and have never had any local presence or programming sufficient to meet the WP:GNG. Others were around since the 1980s, 1990s, and/or 2000s, but with non-notable histories such as rebroadcasting national religious programming or with no mentions in the local press. We scouted the entire list of current and former HC2 stations with articles and determined that 143 (including K25NG-D) were not notable, 21 might be notable (requiring further research and/or article remediation), and 15 returned sufficient coverage in reliable sources to pass the GNG.
List articles are sufficient to hold the subchannel information, which merits being displayed in a company or by-state list. These are valid redirect targets. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 04:44, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
K07AAD-D, It itself has a decent amount of sources for it to stand up on.
KAHC-LD, Same could be said for KAHC-LD, but after doing a slightly further dive, I think they could be deleted.
KBGU-LD, They have an actual source,and some filler ones that could help them stand up to the test.
KBTU-LD, They certainly have the requirements to pass GNG, and the 1st one which I think should have already been safe in the 1st place.
KEHO-LD, 1st one who has their ident on YouTube. KEHO-LD's sources are decent, but not good enough to be an instant pass.
KHPK-LD, At this point I'm just going to begin mentioning.
KNAV-LD, KPMF-LD, KQDF-LD, KTVP-LD, KUGB-CD, KUSE-LD, KUVM-LD.
And now, to the W-Calls! (Merge W20EJ-D to WOST instead of a simple redirect), WCTZ-LD is good enough for instant pass,Same with WCZU-LD. WKUT-LD for needs further evaluation,Also includes WKUW-LD, WQAW-LD, WUDL-LD, WUDZ-LD, and WYGA-CD.
However most of these sources are from FCC, I suppose they could be allowed. Extending the list soon. Danubeball ( talk) 20:15, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
"Sources" should be secondary sources, as those provide the most objective evidence of notability.The FCC is not a secondary source that can be used to demonstrate notability, though it is a reliable source that can be used. It's useful in conjunction with them, but when the topic itself lacks the local and trade news significant coverage to pass the GNG, then we can't have an article on it.I will admit that KBTU-LD might actually be worth keeping; it honestly belonged in the "Maybe" column. I did put WTSJ-LD, which is similar, in that boat.
So here’s the All-New list! KUSE-LD KCZU-LD KCTZ-LD WKUW-LD KQDF-LD KUGB-CD WKUT-LD WQAW-LD WYGA-CD Danubeball ( talk) 23:55, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Now that editors are carving out exceptions for some of the candidates for deletion and advocating individual articles get redirected, this discussion needs further debate. If nominator believes that the AFD list should be reduced, doing so would greatly aid whoever takes on the closure of this discussion. It would also benefit a closer to know what the specific redirect targets for these pages are. And thank you for notifying the relevant WikiProjects about this discussion.
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Talk! 05:08, 4 February 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Please see prior relisting comment. Rather than a No consensus close, I'd like to see some agreement on how to move forward with this nomination.
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The result was no consensus. and I do not see one emerging with yet another relist when the last brought on zero input. It appears that a smaller grouping might bring about a clearer decision, and the standard waiting period does not apply at the close of this AfD. Star Mississippi 23:14, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
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This AfD contains 142 articles. The lead article has been selected in alphanumeric order.
Innovate Corp., also known as HC2 Holdings, is a major owner of low-power TV stations in the United States. Its stations primarily broadcast lower-tier national digital multicast television networks, infomercials, and in some larger markets channels leased to independent programmers. However, many of the individual low-power stations lack notability. K25NG-D was deleted and turned into a redirect to a new list, List of stations owned by Innovate Corp., and Nathan Obral and I propose the same fate for 142 more individual low-power TV stations across the United States (35 states and Puerto Rico).
Many HC2 stations were built in the last 12 years and have never had any local presence or programming sufficient to meet the WP:GNG. Others were around since the 1980s, 1990s, and/or 2000s, but with non-notable histories such as rebroadcasting national religious programming or with no mentions in the local press. We scouted the entire list of current and former HC2 stations with articles and determined that 143 (including K25NG-D) were not notable, 21 might be notable (requiring further research and/or article remediation), and 15 returned sufficient coverage in reliable sources to pass the GNG.
List articles are sufficient to hold the subchannel information, which merits being displayed in a company or by-state list. These are valid redirect targets. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 04:44, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
K07AAD-D, It itself has a decent amount of sources for it to stand up on.
KAHC-LD, Same could be said for KAHC-LD, but after doing a slightly further dive, I think they could be deleted.
KBGU-LD, They have an actual source,and some filler ones that could help them stand up to the test.
KBTU-LD, They certainly have the requirements to pass GNG, and the 1st one which I think should have already been safe in the 1st place.
KEHO-LD, 1st one who has their ident on YouTube. KEHO-LD's sources are decent, but not good enough to be an instant pass.
KHPK-LD, At this point I'm just going to begin mentioning.
KNAV-LD, KPMF-LD, KQDF-LD, KTVP-LD, KUGB-CD, KUSE-LD, KUVM-LD.
And now, to the W-Calls! (Merge W20EJ-D to WOST instead of a simple redirect), WCTZ-LD is good enough for instant pass,Same with WCZU-LD. WKUT-LD for needs further evaluation,Also includes WKUW-LD, WQAW-LD, WUDL-LD, WUDZ-LD, and WYGA-CD.
However most of these sources are from FCC, I suppose they could be allowed. Extending the list soon. Danubeball ( talk) 20:15, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
"Sources" should be secondary sources, as those provide the most objective evidence of notability.The FCC is not a secondary source that can be used to demonstrate notability, though it is a reliable source that can be used. It's useful in conjunction with them, but when the topic itself lacks the local and trade news significant coverage to pass the GNG, then we can't have an article on it.I will admit that KBTU-LD might actually be worth keeping; it honestly belonged in the "Maybe" column. I did put WTSJ-LD, which is similar, in that boat.
So here’s the All-New list! KUSE-LD KCZU-LD KCTZ-LD WKUW-LD KQDF-LD KUGB-CD WKUT-LD WQAW-LD WYGA-CD Danubeball ( talk) 23:55, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Now that editors are carving out exceptions for some of the candidates for deletion and advocating individual articles get redirected, this discussion needs further debate. If nominator believes that the AFD list should be reduced, doing so would greatly aid whoever takes on the closure of this discussion. It would also benefit a closer to know what the specific redirect targets for these pages are. And thank you for notifying the relevant WikiProjects about this discussion.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,
Liz
Read!
Talk! 05:08, 4 February 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Please see prior relisting comment. Rather than a No consensus close, I'd like to see some agreement on how to move forward with this nomination.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,
Liz
Read!
Talk! 06:02, 11 February 2023 (UTC)