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The result was no consensus. Black Kite (talk) 22:53, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
Joseph Fuwape
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Looks to fail WP:NACADEMICS Dolescum ( talk) 17:32, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
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- Comment. As vice chancellor (in a system where the nominally higher positions are ceremonial) he appears to pass the "highest-level academic post" subclause of WP:PROF#C8. However I am highly dubious that Salem University, Lokoja would count as a "major academic institution" as required by the rest of that criterion. In particular, this source shows it as being both small and new. So I think we will have to look to other criteria for notability. — David Eppstein ( talk) 18:25, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
Weak keep Weak DeleteNeutral. per WP:PROF#C8. I will go with a Weak delete until an independent source is provided that documents him delivering a speech as the VC. All the references currently present are promotional primary sources sounding like a resume. Isakaba ( talk) 19:46, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
Based on the independent source provided by Wikicology, that vaguely mentions him as VC in the article. I'd prefer to be nuetral on this one. Isakaba ( talk) 21:17, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
- Isakaba, this independent source documents him delivering a speech as the VC. Wikic¤l¤gy t@lk to M£ 22:23, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
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- Keep: Subject of the article obviously meet
WP:PROF#C6. The size of the university and its age doesn't count, since there are sources that establish the existence of the university.
Wikic¤l¤gy
t@lk to M£ 21:51, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
- How is this argument different from WP:ITEXISTS? And clearly size is relevant since an indicator of size ("major") is built into the statement of that WP:PROF criterion. — David Eppstein ( talk) 06:33, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
- The "Major" in WP:PROF#C6 doesn't refers to "Size", that might be your own personal interpretation. In my own interpretation, it means a duly accredited and approved degree awarding university by the National Universities Commission (in Nigeria, for example). Wikic¤l¤gy t@lk to M£ 13:04, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
- Weak delete. Notability still not apparent. —
David Eppstein (
talk) 06:33, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
- Let me point to you that, per significant coverages in multiple independent reliable sources, subject of the article obviously meet WP:GNG. In reaction to your argument, Salem University is a Major degree awarding university in Nigeria like National Open University of Nigeria, Covenant University, Achievers University and Afe Babalola University (in private universities category). Multiple reliable sources established the university as a Major university in Nigeria. The University was approved by the National Universities Commission per this punch Newspaper which also stressed that the university had successfully conducted more than one convocation per the same source. I also find this [ this Vanguard Newspaper, The Sun Newsppaper, News Nigeria, this one, The Nigerian Voice Newspaper, Information Nigeria. A report by http://www.4icu.org in 2012, ranked Salem university as 63 of top best university in Nigeria above several Major Federal University in Nigeria per this source. If all this does not count to you, I may want to assume your argument is based on personal opinion and that is not in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Wikic¤l¤gy t@lk to M£ 13:04, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
- Your argument and references establishes the fact that Salem University is an accredited university, but says nothing about this professor in question. Maybe you should try finding sources about this don and not the school. Notability can not be inherited from the school to the VC.
Isakaba (
talk) 20:58, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
-
Isakaba,
WP:NOTINHERITED does not applies here. The professor in question is the Vice-Chancellor of the university, which made him to clearly passes
WP:PROF#C6 which stipulated that a person may be notable if The person has held a highest-level elected or appointed academic post at a major academic institution or major academic society.
- Criterion 6 may be satisfied, for example, if the person has held the post of President or Chancellor (or Vice-Chancellor in countries where this is the top academic post) of a significant accredited college or university. Wikic¤l¤gy t@lk to M£ 22:23, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
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Isakaba,
WP:NOTINHERITED does not applies here. The professor in question is the Vice-Chancellor of the university, which made him to clearly passes
WP:PROF#C6 which stipulated that a person may be notable if The person has held a highest-level elected or appointed academic post at a major academic institution or major academic society.
- Your argument and references establishes the fact that Salem University is an accredited university, but says nothing about this professor in question. Maybe you should try finding sources about this don and not the school. Notability can not be inherited from the school to the VC.
Isakaba (
talk) 20:58, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
Comment: – "Prominent tenured professors tend to be kept" per
WP:PEOPLEOUTCOMES.
Wikic¤l¤gy
t@lk to M£ 22:38, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
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The result was no consensus. Black Kite (talk) 22:53, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
Joseph Fuwape
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Looks to fail WP:NACADEMICS Dolescum ( talk) 17:32, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Nigeria-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 18:03, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 18:03, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. Lakun.patra ( talk) 18:05, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
- Comment. As vice chancellor (in a system where the nominally higher positions are ceremonial) he appears to pass the "highest-level academic post" subclause of WP:PROF#C8. However I am highly dubious that Salem University, Lokoja would count as a "major academic institution" as required by the rest of that criterion. In particular, this source shows it as being both small and new. So I think we will have to look to other criteria for notability. — David Eppstein ( talk) 18:25, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
Weak keep Weak DeleteNeutral. per WP:PROF#C8. I will go with a Weak delete until an independent source is provided that documents him delivering a speech as the VC. All the references currently present are promotional primary sources sounding like a resume. Isakaba ( talk) 19:46, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
Based on the independent source provided by Wikicology, that vaguely mentions him as VC in the article. I'd prefer to be nuetral on this one. Isakaba ( talk) 21:17, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
- Isakaba, this independent source documents him delivering a speech as the VC. Wikic¤l¤gy t@lk to M£ 22:23, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Natg 19 ( talk) 00:18, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Natg 19 ( talk) 00:18, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 03:38, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 03:38, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
- Keep: Subject of the article obviously meet
WP:PROF#C6. The size of the university and its age doesn't count, since there are sources that establish the existence of the university.
Wikic¤l¤gy
t@lk to M£ 21:51, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
- How is this argument different from WP:ITEXISTS? And clearly size is relevant since an indicator of size ("major") is built into the statement of that WP:PROF criterion. — David Eppstein ( talk) 06:33, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
- The "Major" in WP:PROF#C6 doesn't refers to "Size", that might be your own personal interpretation. In my own interpretation, it means a duly accredited and approved degree awarding university by the National Universities Commission (in Nigeria, for example). Wikic¤l¤gy t@lk to M£ 13:04, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
- Weak delete. Notability still not apparent. —
David Eppstein (
talk) 06:33, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
- Let me point to you that, per significant coverages in multiple independent reliable sources, subject of the article obviously meet WP:GNG. In reaction to your argument, Salem University is a Major degree awarding university in Nigeria like National Open University of Nigeria, Covenant University, Achievers University and Afe Babalola University (in private universities category). Multiple reliable sources established the university as a Major university in Nigeria. The University was approved by the National Universities Commission per this punch Newspaper which also stressed that the university had successfully conducted more than one convocation per the same source. I also find this [ this Vanguard Newspaper, The Sun Newsppaper, News Nigeria, this one, The Nigerian Voice Newspaper, Information Nigeria. A report by http://www.4icu.org in 2012, ranked Salem university as 63 of top best university in Nigeria above several Major Federal University in Nigeria per this source. If all this does not count to you, I may want to assume your argument is based on personal opinion and that is not in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Wikic¤l¤gy t@lk to M£ 13:04, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
- Your argument and references establishes the fact that Salem University is an accredited university, but says nothing about this professor in question. Maybe you should try finding sources about this don and not the school. Notability can not be inherited from the school to the VC.
Isakaba (
talk) 20:58, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
-
Isakaba,
WP:NOTINHERITED does not applies here. The professor in question is the Vice-Chancellor of the university, which made him to clearly passes
WP:PROF#C6 which stipulated that a person may be notable if The person has held a highest-level elected or appointed academic post at a major academic institution or major academic society.
- Criterion 6 may be satisfied, for example, if the person has held the post of President or Chancellor (or Vice-Chancellor in countries where this is the top academic post) of a significant accredited college or university. Wikic¤l¤gy t@lk to M£ 22:23, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
-
Isakaba,
WP:NOTINHERITED does not applies here. The professor in question is the Vice-Chancellor of the university, which made him to clearly passes
WP:PROF#C6 which stipulated that a person may be notable if The person has held a highest-level elected or appointed academic post at a major academic institution or major academic society.
- Your argument and references establishes the fact that Salem University is an accredited university, but says nothing about this professor in question. Maybe you should try finding sources about this don and not the school. Notability can not be inherited from the school to the VC.
Isakaba (
talk) 20:58, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
Comment: – "Prominent tenured professors tend to be kept" per
WP:PEOPLEOUTCOMES.
Wikic¤l¤gy
t@lk to M£ 22:38, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.