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The result was no consensus. ( non-admin closure) Jax 0677 ( talk) 19:24, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
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Delete as WP:1E Smith's notability appears to stem from his inability to continue playing as a result of an altercation with this partner. Nothing in the article goes beyond that event. Mduvekot ( talk) 21:35, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
- Oppose deletion: The 2017 NFL Draft is coming, and it deems that Jonnu Smith is still in top physical shape to play in the big leagues. Slasher405 ( talk) 21:39, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
- Can you fix the article to address that then, please? Mduvekot ( talk) 22:28, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
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- Delete College football players are rarely notable as such, and no indication that Smith is an exception. A domestic dispute with his girlfriend that injured him is if anything a negative impact on his notability. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 00:39, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
- Agree with delete. But disagree with assertion -- completely -- that a domestic dispute lessens his notablity. Its just the opposite. Notable does not mean "articles about him compliment him." Notability means "there are sufficient articles about him -- good or bad is not at all relevant." 2604:2000:E016:A700:4817:7C35:95FE:6A92 ( talk) 21:36, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
- Delete Doesn't meet notability standards for sports. Gary "Roach" Sanderson ( talk) 01:20, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
- Delete Only coverage subject has received was on assault. No significant coverage on Smith outside of that. Fails simplest of WP standards of notability. Cllgbksr ( talk) 14:44, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
- Re same user who created this, and seems new, can someone please join the conversation here on a lede to avoid an edit war? Thank you. 2604:2000:E016:A700:4817:7C35:95FE:6A92 ( talk) 21:45, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
- Keep Sources are there to pass WP:GNG [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6]-- Yankees10 18:38, 23 April 2017 (UTC)
- Support Keep: Things are coming along with many volunteers, but it needs the NFL player template in advance. Slasher405 ( talk) 18:25, 24 April 2017 (UTC)
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- Keep Drafted in the 3rd round of the 2017 NFL draft by the Tennessee Titans. RobDe68 ( talk) 04:37, 29 April 2017 (UTC)
- Keep. Just drafted. Immediately close this AfD. -- bender235 ( talk) 19:58, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
- Question I understand that Smith has been drafted, but he hasn't played yet. I that correct? If so, in what way, specifically, does he meet WP:NGRIDIRON? I'm happy to withdraw the nomination once that's been clarified. Mduvekot ( talk) 22:07, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
- Close: It seems that a few volunteers are helping out contribute to the article. Just waiting for an admin to respond and see what the final bout is here. Slasher405 ( talk) 22:23, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
- Keep He's had more than one notable event Mduvekot as he's been drafted and will probably make the roster for the Titans. Why should Deshaun Watson or Patrick Mahomes pages not be taken down then? They've also been drafted and have yet to play a game, same thing applies to ALL NFL draft picks this year. Therefore, page needs to stay up as this is a future NFL player who should make the roster for the team.-- Springyboy ( talk) 09:34, 3 May 2017 (UTC)
- Springyboy Let me get this straight: You agree that Smith does not currently meet our notability criteria, but we should handle this AfD as if he does meet them, because he will likely meet them at some point in the future? Is that right? Mduvekot ( talk) 11:37, 3 May 2017 (UTC)
- Keep. Meets WP:GNG, per Yankees10's sources. Ejgreen77 ( talk) 05:28, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
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The result was no consensus. ( non-admin closure) Jax 0677 ( talk) 19:24, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
- Jonnu Smith ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
Delete as WP:1E Smith's notability appears to stem from his inability to continue playing as a result of an altercation with this partner. Nothing in the article goes beyond that event. Mduvekot ( talk) 21:35, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
- Oppose deletion: The 2017 NFL Draft is coming, and it deems that Jonnu Smith is still in top physical shape to play in the big leagues. Slasher405 ( talk) 21:39, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
- Can you fix the article to address that then, please? Mduvekot ( talk) 22:28, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sports-related deletion discussions. Stikkyy (talk) (contributions) 23:30, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 05:30, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
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- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Florida-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 05:30, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, J 947( c) 00:07, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, J 947( c) 00:07, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
- Delete College football players are rarely notable as such, and no indication that Smith is an exception. A domestic dispute with his girlfriend that injured him is if anything a negative impact on his notability. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 00:39, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
- Agree with delete. But disagree with assertion -- completely -- that a domestic dispute lessens his notablity. Its just the opposite. Notable does not mean "articles about him compliment him." Notability means "there are sufficient articles about him -- good or bad is not at all relevant." 2604:2000:E016:A700:4817:7C35:95FE:6A92 ( talk) 21:36, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
- Delete Doesn't meet notability standards for sports. Gary "Roach" Sanderson ( talk) 01:20, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
- Delete Only coverage subject has received was on assault. No significant coverage on Smith outside of that. Fails simplest of WP standards of notability. Cllgbksr ( talk) 14:44, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
- Re same user who created this, and seems new, can someone please join the conversation here on a lede to avoid an edit war? Thank you. 2604:2000:E016:A700:4817:7C35:95FE:6A92 ( talk) 21:45, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
- Keep Sources are there to pass WP:GNG [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6]-- Yankees10 18:38, 23 April 2017 (UTC)
- Support Keep: Things are coming along with many volunteers, but it needs the NFL player template in advance. Slasher405 ( talk) 18:25, 24 April 2017 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Further comments should consider the sources found by Yankees10?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Kurykh ( talk) 07:00, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
Relisting comment: Further comments should consider the sources found by Yankees10?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Kurykh ( talk) 07:00, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
- Keep Drafted in the 3rd round of the 2017 NFL draft by the Tennessee Titans. RobDe68 ( talk) 04:37, 29 April 2017 (UTC)
- Keep. Just drafted. Immediately close this AfD. -- bender235 ( talk) 19:58, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
- Question I understand that Smith has been drafted, but he hasn't played yet. I that correct? If so, in what way, specifically, does he meet WP:NGRIDIRON? I'm happy to withdraw the nomination once that's been clarified. Mduvekot ( talk) 22:07, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
- Close: It seems that a few volunteers are helping out contribute to the article. Just waiting for an admin to respond and see what the final bout is here. Slasher405 ( talk) 22:23, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
- Keep He's had more than one notable event Mduvekot as he's been drafted and will probably make the roster for the Titans. Why should Deshaun Watson or Patrick Mahomes pages not be taken down then? They've also been drafted and have yet to play a game, same thing applies to ALL NFL draft picks this year. Therefore, page needs to stay up as this is a future NFL player who should make the roster for the team.-- Springyboy ( talk) 09:34, 3 May 2017 (UTC)
- Springyboy Let me get this straight: You agree that Smith does not currently meet our notability criteria, but we should handle this AfD as if he does meet them, because he will likely meet them at some point in the future? Is that right? Mduvekot ( talk) 11:37, 3 May 2017 (UTC)
- Keep. Meets WP:GNG, per Yankees10's sources. Ejgreen77 ( talk) 05:28, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
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