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The result was keep. Nomination withdrawn. ( non-admin closure) ‡ Єl Cid of ᐺalencia ᐐT₳LKᐬ 03:21, 17 August 2017 (UTC)
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Fails to meet WP:NCOLLATH ‡ Єl Cid of ᐺalencia ᐐT₳LKᐬ 14:48, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
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- Keep. WP:NCOLLATH is an inclusionary standard not an exclusionary one. College athletes who receive significant coverage in multiple reliable sources can also qualify under the over-arching WP:GNG standard. Here, Jackson has received such significant coverage in a number of major metropolitan newspapers (in addition to smaller outlets). Examples include this from The Palm Beach Post and this from the Miami Herald and this from the Sun-Sentinel. Enough to pass GNG already, and this guy is just getting started and expected to be a superstar. Cbl62 ( talk) 19:45, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
- First source is a blog post, which is not reliable. Second counts, third is just a passing mention regarding the contributions of freshman players. Per WP:crystal we can't keep the article just because he is expected to be good. And WP:NCOLLATH states when a college athlete is notable... I'm not sure what you mean. ‡ Єl Cid of ᐺalencia ᐐT₳LKᐬ 19:48, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
- Blogs are not all unreliable. Depends on the blog. A blog from a major metropolitan daily, featuring the work of one of its professional staff writers, is reliable. See WP:NEWSBLOG. In any event, WikiOriginal-9 has now found abundant further examples of significant coverage. Cbl62 ( talk) 21:12, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
- Most of those are either routine coverage or articles that mention his name but are on a broader or completely different topic. Comparing another player to him or discussing the recruiting class is routine. It's all routine. I don't believe that every college athlete warrants an article. ‡ Єl Cid of ᐺalencia ᐐT₳LKᐬ 21:26, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
- @ El cid, el campeador: Feature articles about college athletes are not routine. Your last comment is a red herring. Nobody is saying that every college athlete warrants an article. Only the exceptional ones like Jackson (< 0.1% of college athletes) who generate significant coverage in multiple, reliable sources. Cbl62 ( talk) 03:17, 17 August 2017 (UTC)
- Have you seen the coverage of college football (and basketball) in their respective cities and states? It's extensive. But, alas, I am alone here. Keep your article, I don't want it. ‡ Єl Cid of ᐺalencia ᐐT₳LKᐬ 03:19, 17 August 2017 (UTC)
- Keep some of the sources provided above go beyond routine coverage and are sufficient to pass GNG. Lepricavark ( talk) 21:49, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
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The result was keep. Nomination withdrawn. ( non-admin closure) ‡ Єl Cid of ᐺalencia ᐐT₳LKᐬ 03:21, 17 August 2017 (UTC)
- Joe Jackson (defensive end, born 1996) ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
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Fails to meet WP:NCOLLATH ‡ Єl Cid of ᐺalencia ᐐT₳LKᐬ 14:48, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of American football-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 18:12, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 18:12, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Florida-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 18:16, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
- Keep. WP:NCOLLATH is an inclusionary standard not an exclusionary one. College athletes who receive significant coverage in multiple reliable sources can also qualify under the over-arching WP:GNG standard. Here, Jackson has received such significant coverage in a number of major metropolitan newspapers (in addition to smaller outlets). Examples include this from The Palm Beach Post and this from the Miami Herald and this from the Sun-Sentinel. Enough to pass GNG already, and this guy is just getting started and expected to be a superstar. Cbl62 ( talk) 19:45, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
- First source is a blog post, which is not reliable. Second counts, third is just a passing mention regarding the contributions of freshman players. Per WP:crystal we can't keep the article just because he is expected to be good. And WP:NCOLLATH states when a college athlete is notable... I'm not sure what you mean. ‡ Єl Cid of ᐺalencia ᐐT₳LKᐬ 19:48, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
- Blogs are not all unreliable. Depends on the blog. A blog from a major metropolitan daily, featuring the work of one of its professional staff writers, is reliable. See WP:NEWSBLOG. In any event, WikiOriginal-9 has now found abundant further examples of significant coverage. Cbl62 ( talk) 21:12, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
- Most of those are either routine coverage or articles that mention his name but are on a broader or completely different topic. Comparing another player to him or discussing the recruiting class is routine. It's all routine. I don't believe that every college athlete warrants an article. ‡ Єl Cid of ᐺalencia ᐐT₳LKᐬ 21:26, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
- @ El cid, el campeador: Feature articles about college athletes are not routine. Your last comment is a red herring. Nobody is saying that every college athlete warrants an article. Only the exceptional ones like Jackson (< 0.1% of college athletes) who generate significant coverage in multiple, reliable sources. Cbl62 ( talk) 03:17, 17 August 2017 (UTC)
- Have you seen the coverage of college football (and basketball) in their respective cities and states? It's extensive. But, alas, I am alone here. Keep your article, I don't want it. ‡ Єl Cid of ᐺalencia ᐐT₳LKᐬ 03:19, 17 August 2017 (UTC)
- Keep some of the sources provided above go beyond routine coverage and are sufficient to pass GNG. Lepricavark ( talk) 21:49, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
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