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The result was keep. ( non-admin closure) – Davey2010 • (talk) 21:25, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
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Player who has never played professionally, thus fails WP:NGRIDIRON after satisfying none of the other requirements. Also fails to satisfy WP:NCOLLATH. PROD removed with reason "notable college career. Added references", yet career shows otherwise. GauchoDude ( talk) 23:51, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
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- Keep Oh really? Not a notable college career? His "career shows otherwise"? The guy is in the top 20 for career college receptions. That along with the references I added makes hiim notable to me.-- Yankees10 00:03, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
Comment: Yankees10, please adhere to Wikipedia:Civility, one of the Wikipedia:Five pillars. Your addition of two sources (one of which from a "HawaiiWarriorBeat.Com Editor") make him notable to you, I don't doubt that, however we are looking for general consensus. I personally find it hard to believe that a generally notable person would have just a handful of sources. GauchoDude ( talk) 13:34, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
- Sorry but there was nothing uncivil about my comment.-- Yankees10 16:48, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
- Keep. Passes WP:GNG as he has been the subject of significant coverage in multiple mainstream media outlets, including the items cited above by Yankees10, so as to pass WP:GNG. Cbl62 ( talk) 16:35, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
- Keep as a WP:GNG pass per Yankees10 and Cbl62. Ejgreen77 ( talk) 03:29, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
- Weak Keep - The subject does not satisfy the specific notability guideline for college athletes per WP:NCOLLATH (no mjaor awards or records) or professional football players per WP:NGRIDIRON (never played in a regular season game in the NFL or other major league). I did find significant coverage from the two major newspapers in Hawaii about the subject's college career, and some lesser, but still significant coverage from the run-up to the 2008 Sugar Bowl from multiple news outlets outside Hawaii. Personally, I like to see more coverage from outside the hometown/home region when making determinations of notability under the general notability guidelines per WP:GNG, but on balance, I believe the subject satisfies the GNG standard in this case. Dirtlawyer1 ( talk) 11:14, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
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The result was keep. ( non-admin closure) – Davey2010 • (talk) 21:25, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
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Player who has never played professionally, thus fails WP:NGRIDIRON after satisfying none of the other requirements. Also fails to satisfy WP:NCOLLATH. PROD removed with reason "notable college career. Added references", yet career shows otherwise. GauchoDude ( talk) 23:51, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
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- Keep Oh really? Not a notable college career? His "career shows otherwise"? The guy is in the top 20 for career college receptions. That along with the references I added makes hiim notable to me.-- Yankees10 00:03, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
Comment: Yankees10, please adhere to Wikipedia:Civility, one of the Wikipedia:Five pillars. Your addition of two sources (one of which from a "HawaiiWarriorBeat.Com Editor") make him notable to you, I don't doubt that, however we are looking for general consensus. I personally find it hard to believe that a generally notable person would have just a handful of sources. GauchoDude ( talk) 13:34, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
- Sorry but there was nothing uncivil about my comment.-- Yankees10 16:48, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
- Keep. Passes WP:GNG as he has been the subject of significant coverage in multiple mainstream media outlets, including the items cited above by Yankees10, so as to pass WP:GNG. Cbl62 ( talk) 16:35, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
- Keep as a WP:GNG pass per Yankees10 and Cbl62. Ejgreen77 ( talk) 03:29, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
- Weak Keep - The subject does not satisfy the specific notability guideline for college athletes per WP:NCOLLATH (no mjaor awards or records) or professional football players per WP:NGRIDIRON (never played in a regular season game in the NFL or other major league). I did find significant coverage from the two major newspapers in Hawaii about the subject's college career, and some lesser, but still significant coverage from the run-up to the 2008 Sugar Bowl from multiple news outlets outside Hawaii. Personally, I like to see more coverage from outside the hometown/home region when making determinations of notability under the general notability guidelines per WP:GNG, but on balance, I believe the subject satisfies the GNG standard in this case. Dirtlawyer1 ( talk) 11:14, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
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