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This is not a "thinly-veiled promotional article". Where is the promotion? There is not one external link to my site or any online property that I own. The links are all to third parties which are not controlled by me. Also you mentioned that I was "non-notable person". What's the definition? Wikipedia is filled with "non notable" people and you don't need to be a famous musicians or movie star to have a wikipedia page.It meets every criteria for
WP:GACRKEEP this page.-
Jimmy Smith
Delete - there do not appear to be independent reliable sources that discuss this gentleman in such a way as to establish his notability under any guideline. The sources on the article range from interviews on self-published blogs (not reliable) to quotes from the subject on TV shows like Mike and Molly (not substantively about the person). Not notable as an author or fitness professional. See
WP:GNG,
WP:AUTHOR and
WP:ATHLETE as examples of relevant guidelines. The presence of other possibly non-notable people is irrelevant per
WP:OTHERSTUFF.
Jerry Pepsi (
talk)
22:15, 18 November 2013 (UTC)reply
Delete Almost all of the references are either press releases from the subject or blog entries, some of them writte by the subject himself, or passing mentions that don't have any substance. Agree with the post above that the subject doesn't meet the requirements of GNG, Author or Athlete for notability.
Banks Irk (
talk)
22:31, 18 November 2013 (UTC)reply
Keep It is not the authors vault that self-published blogs interviewed him. While he might not be a athlete or author that doesn't mean that he shouldn't have a page. His media links without his quotes prove that he is a worthwhile business professional-Carry Ledg
There is no question of "fault". Wikipedia guidelines for articles require that there be independent reliable third-party sources that offer significant coverage of the subject. "Reliable" means that there needs to be evidence of editorial control and oversight. Self-published blogs do not meet that standard and cannot be considered for purposes of establishing notability. However "worthwhile" Mr. Smith may be is not relevant to whether or not he meets the project's guidelines for notability.
Jerry Pepsi (
talk)
02:25, 20 November 2013 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
This is not a "thinly-veiled promotional article". Where is the promotion? There is not one external link to my site or any online property that I own. The links are all to third parties which are not controlled by me. Also you mentioned that I was "non-notable person". What's the definition? Wikipedia is filled with "non notable" people and you don't need to be a famous musicians or movie star to have a wikipedia page.It meets every criteria for
WP:GACRKEEP this page.-
Jimmy Smith
Delete - there do not appear to be independent reliable sources that discuss this gentleman in such a way as to establish his notability under any guideline. The sources on the article range from interviews on self-published blogs (not reliable) to quotes from the subject on TV shows like Mike and Molly (not substantively about the person). Not notable as an author or fitness professional. See
WP:GNG,
WP:AUTHOR and
WP:ATHLETE as examples of relevant guidelines. The presence of other possibly non-notable people is irrelevant per
WP:OTHERSTUFF.
Jerry Pepsi (
talk)
22:15, 18 November 2013 (UTC)reply
Delete Almost all of the references are either press releases from the subject or blog entries, some of them writte by the subject himself, or passing mentions that don't have any substance. Agree with the post above that the subject doesn't meet the requirements of GNG, Author or Athlete for notability.
Banks Irk (
talk)
22:31, 18 November 2013 (UTC)reply
Keep It is not the authors vault that self-published blogs interviewed him. While he might not be a athlete or author that doesn't mean that he shouldn't have a page. His media links without his quotes prove that he is a worthwhile business professional-Carry Ledg
There is no question of "fault". Wikipedia guidelines for articles require that there be independent reliable third-party sources that offer significant coverage of the subject. "Reliable" means that there needs to be evidence of editorial control and oversight. Self-published blogs do not meet that standard and cannot be considered for purposes of establishing notability. However "worthwhile" Mr. Smith may be is not relevant to whether or not he meets the project's guidelines for notability.
Jerry Pepsi (
talk)
02:25, 20 November 2013 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
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