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The result was no consensus. The discussion has boiled down to the choices of keeping the article in Main namespace or draftifying it to Draft namespace. After two full relistings, no consensus has ensued. North America 1000 08:24, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
Jahzara Claxton
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Fails WP:GNG. Some sources exist but not enough to meet WP:SIGCOV. Sportsfan 1234 ( talk) 16:21, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found please ping me. Giant Snowman 16:54, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
- Keep per below sources. Giant Snowman 19:13, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
- Keep A quick google search provided these sources about this two-sport athlete. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9. Even has a foreign article about her here. 10. Updated article with these and other sources - previous revision to current. Courtesy ping to @ GiantSnowman: as requested above. Prominent figure in St Kitts sports, receiving a great deal of coverage with various news articles and a television appearance. Very good candidate for meeting Wikipedia:YOUNGATH. (PS you AfD'ed her on her birthday lol) RedPatch ( talk) 23:15, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
- Keep, passes GNG with significant coverage above.-- Ortizesp ( talk) 05:49, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
Leaning Weak keep. Of the above sources, #1 is by a Social media coach and consultant, #5 is written by the Minister of Sport on a Government run St. Kitts Nevis Information Service (SKINS), #6 and #7 are the same announcement from SKINS and #9 is an interview (PRIMARY). The rest might look good on the surface but when I go through the sources the feel rather thin. They are also from a span of 11 months so maybe WP:TOOSOON applies. Alvaldi ( talk) 09:58, 13 March 2023 (UTC)- Yeah, I came to a similar conclusion when reviewing these sources. The tour reception pieces are largely primary, e.g.
Samal Duggins – the Minister of Agriculture of St Kitts and Nevis, felt extremely proud while welcoming Jahzara Claxton
; the reports on the minister's financial contribution are almost entirely quotes/describing what someone said/repeating stats from a non-independent source without analysis; and the pieces on her call-up to the U19 cricket team are also deficient (the one that includes the opinion statementShe is an exceptional sports lady, and we salute her
certainly cannot be considered independent). For YOUNGATH subjects local sources (and I don't see how newspapers from a community of <50k and ~100 mi2 -- roughly equivalent in population and area to Casa Grande, Arizona -- can be considered anything other than "local") are almost always excluded from notability consideration; this leaves just the Guatemalan article, which is pretty barebones and mostly in the context of a match recap. I would definitely support draftifying until we see whether her performance on the West Indies women's U19 T20 squad garners more diverse coverage. JoelleJay ( talk) 16:58, 13 March 2023 (UTC) - After giving it some thought, I'm switching to Draftify. It is just to soon at the moment. Alvaldi ( talk) 17:38, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
- Yeah, I came to a similar conclusion when reviewing these sources. The tour reception pieces are largely primary, e.g.
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Given the last two comments, I'm relisting to determine whether this article should be Kept or Draftified.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 21:34, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
CommentDraftify - I don't believe there is SIGCOV of her football exploits, but perhaps there is something from her time in cricket. As noted above, there is some coverage of her selection to the West Indies' under-19 cricket team, but none of it looks in-depth to me. Maybe someone that follows cricket might have a better read? Jogurney ( talk) 13:57, 20 March 2023 (UTC) Updating. Jogurney ( talk) 19:56, 20 March 2023 (UTC)- Draftify. Per the discussion above. JoelleJay ( talk) 16:55, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
- Keep - @ GiantSnowman:, Per RedPatch and Ortizesp. WP:HEY also applies here. Thanks, Das osmnezz ( talk) 14:40, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
Keep per @ RedPatch:MetricMaster ( talk) 08:47, 23 March 2023 (UTC) This user has made 47 edits to Wikipedia. Their contribution history shows that 38 of these were to AFD discussions. The account exists for votestacking and has been blocked.
- Struck content from confirmed sock above, per WP:SOCKSTRIKE. North America 1000 08:26, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
- Keep. I am more swayed by the keep arguments over the draftify. StickyWicket ( talk) 21:10, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Disregarding the blocked sockpuppet comment, the first relist doesn't show a change in consensus one way or the other. Hopefully relisting it again will help shape consensus towards a result.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Aoidh ( talk) 06:25, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was no consensus. The discussion has boiled down to the choices of keeping the article in Main namespace or draftifying it to Draft namespace. After two full relistings, no consensus has ensued. North America 1000 08:24, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
Jahzara Claxton
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Fails WP:GNG. Some sources exist but not enough to meet WP:SIGCOV. Sportsfan 1234 ( talk) 16:21, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found please ping me. Giant Snowman 16:54, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
- Keep per below sources. Giant Snowman 19:13, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
- Keep A quick google search provided these sources about this two-sport athlete. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9. Even has a foreign article about her here. 10. Updated article with these and other sources - previous revision to current. Courtesy ping to @ GiantSnowman: as requested above. Prominent figure in St Kitts sports, receiving a great deal of coverage with various news articles and a television appearance. Very good candidate for meeting Wikipedia:YOUNGATH. (PS you AfD'ed her on her birthday lol) RedPatch ( talk) 23:15, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
- Keep, passes GNG with significant coverage above.-- Ortizesp ( talk) 05:49, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
Leaning Weak keep. Of the above sources, #1 is by a Social media coach and consultant, #5 is written by the Minister of Sport on a Government run St. Kitts Nevis Information Service (SKINS), #6 and #7 are the same announcement from SKINS and #9 is an interview (PRIMARY). The rest might look good on the surface but when I go through the sources the feel rather thin. They are also from a span of 11 months so maybe WP:TOOSOON applies. Alvaldi ( talk) 09:58, 13 March 2023 (UTC)- Yeah, I came to a similar conclusion when reviewing these sources. The tour reception pieces are largely primary, e.g.
Samal Duggins – the Minister of Agriculture of St Kitts and Nevis, felt extremely proud while welcoming Jahzara Claxton
; the reports on the minister's financial contribution are almost entirely quotes/describing what someone said/repeating stats from a non-independent source without analysis; and the pieces on her call-up to the U19 cricket team are also deficient (the one that includes the opinion statementShe is an exceptional sports lady, and we salute her
certainly cannot be considered independent). For YOUNGATH subjects local sources (and I don't see how newspapers from a community of <50k and ~100 mi2 -- roughly equivalent in population and area to Casa Grande, Arizona -- can be considered anything other than "local") are almost always excluded from notability consideration; this leaves just the Guatemalan article, which is pretty barebones and mostly in the context of a match recap. I would definitely support draftifying until we see whether her performance on the West Indies women's U19 T20 squad garners more diverse coverage. JoelleJay ( talk) 16:58, 13 March 2023 (UTC) - After giving it some thought, I'm switching to Draftify. It is just to soon at the moment. Alvaldi ( talk) 17:38, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
- Yeah, I came to a similar conclusion when reviewing these sources. The tour reception pieces are largely primary, e.g.
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Given the last two comments, I'm relisting to determine whether this article should be Kept or Draftified.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 21:34, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
CommentDraftify - I don't believe there is SIGCOV of her football exploits, but perhaps there is something from her time in cricket. As noted above, there is some coverage of her selection to the West Indies' under-19 cricket team, but none of it looks in-depth to me. Maybe someone that follows cricket might have a better read? Jogurney ( talk) 13:57, 20 March 2023 (UTC) Updating. Jogurney ( talk) 19:56, 20 March 2023 (UTC)- Draftify. Per the discussion above. JoelleJay ( talk) 16:55, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
- Keep - @ GiantSnowman:, Per RedPatch and Ortizesp. WP:HEY also applies here. Thanks, Das osmnezz ( talk) 14:40, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
Keep per @ RedPatch:MetricMaster ( talk) 08:47, 23 March 2023 (UTC) This user has made 47 edits to Wikipedia. Their contribution history shows that 38 of these were to AFD discussions. The account exists for votestacking and has been blocked.
- Struck content from confirmed sock above, per WP:SOCKSTRIKE. North America 1000 08:26, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
- Keep. I am more swayed by the keep arguments over the draftify. StickyWicket ( talk) 21:10, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Disregarding the blocked sockpuppet comment, the first relist doesn't show a change in consensus one way or the other. Hopefully relisting it again will help shape consensus towards a result.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Aoidh ( talk) 06:25, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.