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The result was delete. -- RoySmith (talk) 13:32, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
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Ulz lacks notability. The top google hit is his own website, which is also the source for the only reference citation in the article. The second google hit is this article. A check of the sources available above yields commercial websites selling his CDs, and zero dedicated articles, even in his hometown newspaper. And to quote the article itself, "Ulz did not achieve lasting fame as a folk singer/songwriter..." Ergo, delete. Tapered ( talk) 22:20, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
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- Keep - "zero dedicated articles, even in his hometown newspaper" claim is false - just look at the references! StefanWirz ( talk) 06:57, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
- Please note, the various reference links on this page yield no dedicated articles, as stated. The article's references are not used as citations. Interesting. The only reference that I could run down using Google Books, Steve Martin's "Born Standing Up," mentions him as the MC in a nondescript nightclub—not the stuff of WP:N. I'm also amending the nomination to quote the article itself! Tapered ( talk) 23:45, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
- Delete - The gentleman is recently deceased, but I'm sorry to say that his notability is indirect at best. The article's main source is Mr. Ulz's own promotional website, which was an operation to promote appearances and sell merchandise. All of the other references are to books that are overwhelmingly about more famous people and which mention Mr. Ulz briefly as a peripheral background figure. Of his many co-written songs, he can be credited accordingly on those that were recorded by notable musicians, but he has received very little reliable coverage as a songwriter, performer, toymaker, etc. in his own right. Unfortunately he did not achieve enough independent notability to merit his own Wikipedia article. --- DOOMSDAYER520 ( Talk| Contribs) 18:05, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
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The result was delete. -- RoySmith (talk) 13:32, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
- Ivan Ulz ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
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Ulz lacks notability. The top google hit is his own website, which is also the source for the only reference citation in the article. The second google hit is this article. A check of the sources available above yields commercial websites selling his CDs, and zero dedicated articles, even in his hometown newspaper. And to quote the article itself, "Ulz did not achieve lasting fame as a folk singer/songwriter..." Ergo, delete. Tapered ( talk) 22:20, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. MT Train Talk 09:18, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. MT Train Talk 09:18, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
- Keep - "zero dedicated articles, even in his hometown newspaper" claim is false - just look at the references! StefanWirz ( talk) 06:57, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
- Please note, the various reference links on this page yield no dedicated articles, as stated. The article's references are not used as citations. Interesting. The only reference that I could run down using Google Books, Steve Martin's "Born Standing Up," mentions him as the MC in a nondescript nightclub—not the stuff of WP:N. I'm also amending the nomination to quote the article itself! Tapered ( talk) 23:45, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
- Delete - The gentleman is recently deceased, but I'm sorry to say that his notability is indirect at best. The article's main source is Mr. Ulz's own promotional website, which was an operation to promote appearances and sell merchandise. All of the other references are to books that are overwhelmingly about more famous people and which mention Mr. Ulz briefly as a peripheral background figure. Of his many co-written songs, he can be credited accordingly on those that were recorded by notable musicians, but he has received very little reliable coverage as a songwriter, performer, toymaker, etc. in his own right. Unfortunately he did not achieve enough independent notability to merit his own Wikipedia article. --- DOOMSDAYER520 ( Talk| Contribs) 18:05, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
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