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The result was keep, with a small dose of WP:SNOW. bd2412 T 02:49, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
Isares
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Contested PROD. The disambiguation mentions "Isares" is a synonym of the Macrobrochis moth. Nowhere in the article "Isares" appears, therefore it goes against WP:MOSDAB and WP:NOTDICT. It also mentions that "Isares [is] Thai male given name", Ram Buttri Road is not about the name, does not mention it is a name created after Rama Isares, and the article merely mentions "Pao Suriyakul, who was the daughter of Prince Rama Isares" ( WP:COATRACK). If Rama Isares is notable, it needs an article. But right now, this page is not disambiguating something. © Tbhotch ™ ( en-2.5). 00:58, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
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- Keep. Macrobrochis does mention, with a source, Isares as a synonym, and there's also an album by the name, so we have two valid entries so far. I don't think the purported Thai name should be included, while the album article has a notability tag: if it does get deleted one day then Isares could be converted into a redirect to the moth article. – Uanfala (talk) 01:11, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
- The source says "Original publication details: Scientific Name of Taxon: ISARES"; "Current Valid Name: MACROBROCHIS Herrich-Schäffer, 1855". Isares is not in use anymore, it does not says they are synonyms.
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- Apologies for the apparently imprecise language: I don't edit taxon articles so that's not my area. I take your word that this isn't a synonym in some technical taxonomic sense of the word, but a former name is just as acceptable as one that's currently in use. – Uanfala (talk) 13:04, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
- Keep but seriously delete and redirect the unsourced EP. And, incidentally NOTDICT does not mean that moths cannot be mentioned on dab pages. In ictu oculi ( talk) 07:58, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
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- Keep assuming the EP gets sourced properly - a recognized taxonomic synonym and an album title make a proper disamb pair. If the EP article goes away, redirect to the moth. -- Elmidae ( talk · contribs) 19:53, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
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The result was keep, with a small dose of WP:SNOW. bd2412 T 02:49, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
Isares
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Contested PROD. The disambiguation mentions "Isares" is a synonym of the Macrobrochis moth. Nowhere in the article "Isares" appears, therefore it goes against WP:MOSDAB and WP:NOTDICT. It also mentions that "Isares [is] Thai male given name", Ram Buttri Road is not about the name, does not mention it is a name created after Rama Isares, and the article merely mentions "Pao Suriyakul, who was the daughter of Prince Rama Isares" ( WP:COATRACK). If Rama Isares is notable, it needs an article. But right now, this page is not disambiguating something. © Tbhotch ™ ( en-2.5). 00:58, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Disambiguations-related deletion discussions. © Tbhotch ™ ( en-2.5). 00:58, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
- Keep. Macrobrochis does mention, with a source, Isares as a synonym, and there's also an album by the name, so we have two valid entries so far. I don't think the purported Thai name should be included, while the album article has a notability tag: if it does get deleted one day then Isares could be converted into a redirect to the moth article. – Uanfala (talk) 01:11, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
- The source says "Original publication details: Scientific Name of Taxon: ISARES"; "Current Valid Name: MACROBROCHIS Herrich-Schäffer, 1855". Isares is not in use anymore, it does not says they are synonyms.
©
Tbhotch
™ (
en-2.5).
01:13, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
- Apologies for the apparently imprecise language: I don't edit taxon articles so that's not my area. I take your word that this isn't a synonym in some technical taxonomic sense of the word, but a former name is just as acceptable as one that's currently in use. – Uanfala (talk) 13:04, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
- Keep but seriously delete and redirect the unsourced EP. And, incidentally NOTDICT does not mean that moths cannot be mentioned on dab pages. In ictu oculi ( talk) 07:58, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
| This page in a nutshell: In Wikipedia, things are grouped into articles based on what they are, not what they are called by. In a dictionary, things are grouped by what they are called by, not what they are. |
- Keep assuming the EP gets sourced properly - a recognized taxonomic synonym and an album title make a proper disamb pair. If the EP article goes away, redirect to the moth. -- Elmidae ( talk · contribs) 19:53, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
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