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The result was no consensus. Star Mississippi 23:40, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
Isabella García-Manzo
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Other than the 2023 pageant, there is no evidence for notability. It is very likely that the page was created/edited for self-promotion. TanookiKoopa ( talk) 11:12, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the
deletion sorting lists for the following topics:
Women,
Beauty pageants, and
El Salvador.
Spiderone
(Talk to Spider)
11:27, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
- Keep: I found a feature article about her in Vogue and several other news outlets. She meets the requirement for significant coverage in reliable secondary sources. Although these sources still need to be added to the article, WP:NEXIST instructs the retention of articles such as this because "notability requires only the existence of suitable independent, reliable sources, not their immediate presence or citation in an article." Rublamb ( talk) 14:06, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
- Comment: @
Rublamb, would you mind sharing those sources here so we can analyze them? Would like to take a look at them.
Let'srun (
talk)
23:38, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
- Reply:: Here you go. Some may be worthless, but I am sure of the top few.
Rublamb (
talk)
00:26, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
- Keep on significance of press coverage alone, seems notable enough for me. Mistamystery ( talk) 18:21, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
- Salvadoran Isabella García-Manzo reappears and talks about her participation in Miss Universe 2023 (Vogue--cover story)
- Miss El Salvador 2023 Isabella García-Manzo reaparece renovada e impactante en portada de revista (People)
- Isabella García-Manzo, hostess with renewed style (La Prensa Grafica)
- Royal! Isabella García Manzo shows her new image on social networks (Ella)
- Isabella García Manzo, Miss Universe El Salvador whose triumph has been criticized (The Herald)
- El Salvador and the appointment of the most beautiful women Miss El Salvador Isabella García-Manzo looks spectacular in Miss Universe (Washington Hispanic)
- Miss El Salvador in danger of being sanctioned for committing a foul (La Prensa)
- Isabella García-Manzo is Miss El Salvador 2023 (VOS TV)
- Miss El Salvador 2023 Sparks Intense Reaction With Surprising Win Over Popular Rival (US Daily Report)
- After several days in Spain, Isabella García-Manzo returns to El Salvador (El Salvador.com)
- Isabella García Manzo, Miss El Salvador, reappears on social networks with a radical change of look(El Salvador.com)
- Isabella García-Manzo is crowned Miss El Salvador 2023 (TELEMUNDO)
- Miss El Salvador Shocks Crowd at Miss Universe 2023 National Costume Show (Remezcla)
- Miss Universe Host Country El Salvador Crowns Its Own Pageant Winner (Remezcla)
- Isabella García-Manzo: Representing El Salvador with Glamour and Passion in Miss Universe (Breaking Latest News)
- Miss Universe 2023: 10 Best Moments From The National Costume Show (Harpers Bazaar)
- Who is Isabella García-Manzo, the representative of El Salvador in Miss Universe 2023 (AS US Latino)
- Reply:: Here you go. Some may be worthless, but I am sure of the top few.
Rublamb (
talk)
00:26, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
- Comment: @
Rublamb, would you mind sharing those sources here so we can analyze them? Would like to take a look at them.
Let'srun (
talk)
23:38, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: To consider the sources presented.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Daniel ( talk) 23:05, 3 December 2023 (UTC)- The Vogue source doesn't count as it is an interview, and the other coverage posted has to do with the pageant itself. Thus, due to
WP:BIO1E, I have to go with a Weak Delete on this one, but if coverage extending beyond the pageant can be found, I'd be willing to change my vote.
Let'srun (
talk)
01:53, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
- Comment: WP:INTERVIEWS says that interviews "can be considered as evidence of notability", especially when published in a reliable source. It is pretty compeling that this is the cover story of a major magazine. Rublamb ( talk) 04:07, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
- The Vogue source doesn't count as it is an interview, and the other coverage posted has to do with the pageant itself. Thus, due to
WP:BIO1E, I have to go with a Weak Delete on this one, but if coverage extending beyond the pageant can be found, I'd be willing to change my vote.
Let'srun (
talk)
01:53, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Daniel ( talk) 00:02, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was no consensus. Star Mississippi 23:40, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
Isabella García-Manzo
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Other than the 2023 pageant, there is no evidence for notability. It is very likely that the page was created/edited for self-promotion. TanookiKoopa ( talk) 11:12, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the
deletion sorting lists for the following topics:
Women,
Beauty pageants, and
El Salvador.
Spiderone
(Talk to Spider)
11:27, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
- Keep: I found a feature article about her in Vogue and several other news outlets. She meets the requirement for significant coverage in reliable secondary sources. Although these sources still need to be added to the article, WP:NEXIST instructs the retention of articles such as this because "notability requires only the existence of suitable independent, reliable sources, not their immediate presence or citation in an article." Rublamb ( talk) 14:06, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
- Comment: @
Rublamb, would you mind sharing those sources here so we can analyze them? Would like to take a look at them.
Let'srun (
talk)
23:38, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
- Reply:: Here you go. Some may be worthless, but I am sure of the top few.
Rublamb (
talk)
00:26, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
- Keep on significance of press coverage alone, seems notable enough for me. Mistamystery ( talk) 18:21, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
- Salvadoran Isabella García-Manzo reappears and talks about her participation in Miss Universe 2023 (Vogue--cover story)
- Miss El Salvador 2023 Isabella García-Manzo reaparece renovada e impactante en portada de revista (People)
- Isabella García-Manzo, hostess with renewed style (La Prensa Grafica)
- Royal! Isabella García Manzo shows her new image on social networks (Ella)
- Isabella García Manzo, Miss Universe El Salvador whose triumph has been criticized (The Herald)
- El Salvador and the appointment of the most beautiful women Miss El Salvador Isabella García-Manzo looks spectacular in Miss Universe (Washington Hispanic)
- Miss El Salvador in danger of being sanctioned for committing a foul (La Prensa)
- Isabella García-Manzo is Miss El Salvador 2023 (VOS TV)
- Miss El Salvador 2023 Sparks Intense Reaction With Surprising Win Over Popular Rival (US Daily Report)
- After several days in Spain, Isabella García-Manzo returns to El Salvador (El Salvador.com)
- Isabella García Manzo, Miss El Salvador, reappears on social networks with a radical change of look(El Salvador.com)
- Isabella García-Manzo is crowned Miss El Salvador 2023 (TELEMUNDO)
- Miss El Salvador Shocks Crowd at Miss Universe 2023 National Costume Show (Remezcla)
- Miss Universe Host Country El Salvador Crowns Its Own Pageant Winner (Remezcla)
- Isabella García-Manzo: Representing El Salvador with Glamour and Passion in Miss Universe (Breaking Latest News)
- Miss Universe 2023: 10 Best Moments From The National Costume Show (Harpers Bazaar)
- Who is Isabella García-Manzo, the representative of El Salvador in Miss Universe 2023 (AS US Latino)
- Reply:: Here you go. Some may be worthless, but I am sure of the top few.
Rublamb (
talk)
00:26, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
- Comment: @
Rublamb, would you mind sharing those sources here so we can analyze them? Would like to take a look at them.
Let'srun (
talk)
23:38, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: To consider the sources presented.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Daniel ( talk) 23:05, 3 December 2023 (UTC)- The Vogue source doesn't count as it is an interview, and the other coverage posted has to do with the pageant itself. Thus, due to
WP:BIO1E, I have to go with a Weak Delete on this one, but if coverage extending beyond the pageant can be found, I'd be willing to change my vote.
Let'srun (
talk)
01:53, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
- Comment: WP:INTERVIEWS says that interviews "can be considered as evidence of notability", especially when published in a reliable source. It is pretty compeling that this is the cover story of a major magazine. Rublamb ( talk) 04:07, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
- The Vogue source doesn't count as it is an interview, and the other coverage posted has to do with the pageant itself. Thus, due to
WP:BIO1E, I have to go with a Weak Delete on this one, but if coverage extending beyond the pageant can be found, I'd be willing to change my vote.
Let'srun (
talk)
01:53, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Daniel ( talk) 00:02, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.