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The result was keep. Tone 06:41, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
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The subject does not appear to be notable as an individual. She had little to no public role. She only got some coverage when she died, and that was routine. The entire article revolves around her place on the family tree of the Spanish royal family, but Wikipedia is not a genealogy website. Surtsicna ( talk) 19:38, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete. This looks like a classic case of claiming notability by inheritance. Guy ( help! - typo?) 12:35, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
- Comment The Spanish article does reveal some significant contemporary coverage of her wedding in 1936 by reliable sources, but I'm not sure that this counts for notability. Given her long life, it is possible that she received significant coverage in historical society publications that would be difficult to access and assess. Hemiauchenia ( talk) 15:19, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
- All I see on es.wikipedia is genealogy. Could you please point out what strikes you as signifcant coverage? Surtsicna ( talk) 19:37, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
- @ Surtsicna: It's references 9 and 10 in Wiener Salonblatt direct link and ABC respectively. I can't speak german and spanish so I can't evaluate whether these sources are sigcov. Hemiauchenia ( talk) 20:01, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
- Keep. Pretender to the throne of Navarre. This website isn't demosntration of notability itself, since it looks self-published, but it cites dozens of sources under Fuentes y bibliografía Furius ( talk) 19:27, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
- That she was a pretender to something is pure rubbish. The website indulges in a fantasy; she never claimed any throne or associated herself in any way with the long-defunct Navarrese monarchy. The sources do not demonstrate significant coverage of the subject. Surtsicna ( talk) 19:37, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
- Delete a clear case of deposed monarchy cruft. The throne of Navarre seems to have ceased to exist in 1841. There is not even a clear place that it would applies to. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 16:29, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
- Keep. The significant aspect here isn't that she was pretender to Navarre, but that she was part of the royal family (and very close to succession, if Alfonso XII didn't have children, she would've been queen: [1] [2]). Her funeral got significant coverage, even by the Daily Fail ( [3]) as well as several reliable sources: [4], [5], [6], [7], [8], [9]. Coverage of her was not limited to her funeral, here is an in-depth piece from her birthday in 2015: [10] in El Mundo. or coverage from ABC in 2015: [11]. British royals much more removed from succession than Alicia are notable, she was very much part of the Spanish royals and has significant coverage.-- Eostrix ( 🦉 hoot hoot🦉) 07:17, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
- That does seem like decent coverage. Thank you! Surtsicna ( talk) 07:22, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
- Keep She was the oldest and senior member of the Spanish royal family. She have plenty of coverage by Spain mainstream news source (not about her funeral) such as Alicia de Borbón, the longest-lived Infanta who could have been Queen of Spain, The titles of the King's family from El Mundo, [12] from La Razón, [13] from ABC (newspaper). Moreover, a lot of coverage about her high-profile funeral ALICIA DE BORBÓN, THE WOMAN WHO COULD REIGN IN SPAIN, DIES with quote Doña Alicia was 99 years old, she was the last living aunt of King Don Juan Carlos and, for many, a living history of our country., The four Kings attend the funeral of Alicia de Borbón-Parma, which the Infanta Cristina has also attended with quote Given her condition as Infanta of Spain, she had the right to be buried in the Panteón de Infantes de El Escorial and She could have become Queen of Spain if Alfonso XIII and Victoria Eugenia, Felipe VI's great-grandparents, had not had children., Death of Infanta Alice, the dean of the gotha with quote King Felipe VI of Spain and Queen Letizia, King Emeritus Juan Carlos and Queen Sophie, Infantes Elena, Pilar and Margarita, his nephews and nieces, the princes of Bourbon-Sicilies, mourn the disappearance of a great lady., Disappearance of Princess Alice of Bourbon-Parma, The Infanta Doña Alicia de Borbón-Parma, aunt of Don Juan Carlos, dies at 99 years of age with quote The King has ordered that the coffin be veiled by the Royal Guard and covered with the flag of Spain and the last living aunt of King. The oldest Infanta in Spain., Alicia de Borbón, aunt of King Juan Carlos, dies and many many more. I think these multiple RS enough to meet WP:GNG. VocalIndia ( talk) 19:00, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
- Update The article has been significantly improved with additional reliable sources references by me. Thanks VocalIndia ( talk) 06:12, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
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The result was keep. Tone 06:41, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
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The subject does not appear to be notable as an individual. She had little to no public role. She only got some coverage when she died, and that was routine. The entire article revolves around her place on the family tree of the Spanish royal family, but Wikipedia is not a genealogy website. Surtsicna ( talk) 19:38, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. Surtsicna ( talk) 19:38, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Surtsicna ( talk) 19:38, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete. This looks like a classic case of claiming notability by inheritance. Guy ( help! - typo?) 12:35, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
- Comment The Spanish article does reveal some significant contemporary coverage of her wedding in 1936 by reliable sources, but I'm not sure that this counts for notability. Given her long life, it is possible that she received significant coverage in historical society publications that would be difficult to access and assess. Hemiauchenia ( talk) 15:19, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
- All I see on es.wikipedia is genealogy. Could you please point out what strikes you as signifcant coverage? Surtsicna ( talk) 19:37, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
- @ Surtsicna: It's references 9 and 10 in Wiener Salonblatt direct link and ABC respectively. I can't speak german and spanish so I can't evaluate whether these sources are sigcov. Hemiauchenia ( talk) 20:01, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
- Keep. Pretender to the throne of Navarre. This website isn't demosntration of notability itself, since it looks self-published, but it cites dozens of sources under Fuentes y bibliografía Furius ( talk) 19:27, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
- That she was a pretender to something is pure rubbish. The website indulges in a fantasy; she never claimed any throne or associated herself in any way with the long-defunct Navarrese monarchy. The sources do not demonstrate significant coverage of the subject. Surtsicna ( talk) 19:37, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
- Delete a clear case of deposed monarchy cruft. The throne of Navarre seems to have ceased to exist in 1841. There is not even a clear place that it would applies to. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 16:29, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
- Keep. The significant aspect here isn't that she was pretender to Navarre, but that she was part of the royal family (and very close to succession, if Alfonso XII didn't have children, she would've been queen: [1] [2]). Her funeral got significant coverage, even by the Daily Fail ( [3]) as well as several reliable sources: [4], [5], [6], [7], [8], [9]. Coverage of her was not limited to her funeral, here is an in-depth piece from her birthday in 2015: [10] in El Mundo. or coverage from ABC in 2015: [11]. British royals much more removed from succession than Alicia are notable, she was very much part of the Spanish royals and has significant coverage.-- Eostrix ( 🦉 hoot hoot🦉) 07:17, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
- That does seem like decent coverage. Thank you! Surtsicna ( talk) 07:22, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
- Keep She was the oldest and senior member of the Spanish royal family. She have plenty of coverage by Spain mainstream news source (not about her funeral) such as Alicia de Borbón, the longest-lived Infanta who could have been Queen of Spain, The titles of the King's family from El Mundo, [12] from La Razón, [13] from ABC (newspaper). Moreover, a lot of coverage about her high-profile funeral ALICIA DE BORBÓN, THE WOMAN WHO COULD REIGN IN SPAIN, DIES with quote Doña Alicia was 99 years old, she was the last living aunt of King Don Juan Carlos and, for many, a living history of our country., The four Kings attend the funeral of Alicia de Borbón-Parma, which the Infanta Cristina has also attended with quote Given her condition as Infanta of Spain, she had the right to be buried in the Panteón de Infantes de El Escorial and She could have become Queen of Spain if Alfonso XIII and Victoria Eugenia, Felipe VI's great-grandparents, had not had children., Death of Infanta Alice, the dean of the gotha with quote King Felipe VI of Spain and Queen Letizia, King Emeritus Juan Carlos and Queen Sophie, Infantes Elena, Pilar and Margarita, his nephews and nieces, the princes of Bourbon-Sicilies, mourn the disappearance of a great lady., Disappearance of Princess Alice of Bourbon-Parma, The Infanta Doña Alicia de Borbón-Parma, aunt of Don Juan Carlos, dies at 99 years of age with quote The King has ordered that the coffin be veiled by the Royal Guard and covered with the flag of Spain and the last living aunt of King. The oldest Infanta in Spain., Alicia de Borbón, aunt of King Juan Carlos, dies and many many more. I think these multiple RS enough to meet WP:GNG. VocalIndia ( talk) 19:00, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
- Update The article has been significantly improved with additional reliable sources references by me. Thanks VocalIndia ( talk) 06:12, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
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