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The result was delete. Also of note, the criteria under WP:NMUSIC is a major label, not a notable label. kelapstick( bainuu) 00:49, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
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No evidence of notability; fails WP:GNG and WP:NMG. Λeternus (talk) 18:58, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
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- Keep: To me, Igorrr is a notable artist/band. According to the notability criteria for music: Igorrr has four albums on Ad Noiseam, a 12-year old label with a roster containing tens of artists and bands who seem to deserve their own Wikipedia pages, which meets criterion 5 in the list: "Has released two or more albums on a major record label or on one of the more important indie labels (i.e., an independent label with a history of more than a few years, and with a roster of performers, many of whom are independently notable)." A simple Google search gives hundreds of albums reviews and interviews by independent media, including renowned websites, French and international. Here is a list of reviews and interviews for his 2012 "Halleluyah" album alone. 85.171.44.43 ( talk) 10:37, 19 February 2015 (UTC) — 85.171.44.43 ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- Keep: I completely agree, this is nothing more than respecting the Wikipedia's terms.
I wrote a more complete article here, contesting the deletion of the Igorrr page : /info/en/?search=User_talk:Aeternus David. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mpolkiujhy ( talk • contribs) 11:21, 19 February 2015 (UTC) — Mpolkiujhy ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- Keep:Igorrr is definitely a notable artist. Precursor in the electronic scene and a donor of fresh air in the metal music according to numerous reviews such as Les Inrocks, Trax, Rock 'a' Rolla, Side-Line, Sputnik, etc.
His "Chicken's Symphony" made really a buzz and it was diffused in Canal + and the Japanese TV NHK.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7D4ofrssoUQ&feature=youtu.be Canal+ : http://www.canalplus.fr/c-infos-documentaires/c-ms-l-oeil-de-links/pid7534-l-emission.html?vid=1199284 NHK Tv: https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10152612560643049&set=vb.241913148048&type=2&theater — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bagienna ( talk • contribs) 11:49, 19 February 2015 (UTC) — Bagienna ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- Delete: Nope, not convinced. YouTube and Facebook aren't reliable sources, and a teensy indie label doesn't become a "major" indie label just because it has some artists whom someone thinks ought to have Wikipedia articles. I appreciate that the band has some fans, and I'm sure they'll do a bang up job of creating a fan site somewhere. It just doesn't belong on Wikipedia. Nha Trang Allons! 18:40, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
- Keep:It seems like they're using Facebook or YouTube to make it easier for us to check how popular the band is, but obviously, we can find the same informations on the official sites. NHK : [1] and Dour Festival : </ref> http://www.dourfestival.eu/artist/detail/Igorrr/</ref>.
I know about NHK as the biggest TV in Japan and Dour Festival as the most popular festival in all Europe (almost 200.000 people this last years when Igorrr was playing [2]). According to the post I see above, Igorrr was apparently interviewed by Canal+, this makes the Igorrr place in Wikipedia definitely relevant to me. 79.194.6.98 ( talk) 08:50, 20 February 2015 (UTC) — 79.194.6.98 ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- Keep:User Nha Trang wrote: 'a teensy indie label doesn't become a "major" indie label just because it has some artists whom someone thinks ought to have Wikipedia articles'. I was saying that this "teensy indie label" has tens of artists who already have their own Wikipedia pages, i.e. recognized as significants artists. Sorry if I did not make this clear in my first comment.
Also, I know that 'YouTube and Facebook aren't reliable sources', but the Facebook link I provided gives, in turn, links to tens of reviews and interviews of Igorrr, some of which you may think are notable. Finally, about the current sockpuppet investigation, I just want to mention that Aeternus, who filed this article for deletion, also launched the SPI when he saw three people coming here to defend Igorrr and Ad Noiseam. In fact, the head of Ad Noiseam posted something on Youtube about hiw the Ad Noiseam and Igorrr pages were filed for deletion, and some of us "fans" came here to defend them. The FB pos was not a call: we fans decided to give our opinion. 85.171.44.43 ( talk) 09:09, 20 February 2015 (UTC) — 85.171.44.43 ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
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- Note: There is a major canvassing and meatpuppetry going on, as someone has apparently made a Facebook call to defend Igorrr's notability. Also, there is an ongoing sockpuppet investigation involving users Mpolkiujhy and Bagienna. -- Λeternus (talk) 09:03, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
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- Keep: Seems that the label who released his four albums proved its notability very recently as a major indie label [ [1]], so the 5th point of notability criteria for music artists seems to be filled. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.72.85.185 ( talk) 07:56, 3 March 2015 (UTC) — 89.72.85.185 ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
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The result was delete. Also of note, the criteria under WP:NMUSIC is a major label, not a notable label. kelapstick( bainuu) 00:49, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
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No evidence of notability; fails WP:GNG and WP:NMG. Λeternus (talk) 18:58, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
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- Keep: To me, Igorrr is a notable artist/band. According to the notability criteria for music: Igorrr has four albums on Ad Noiseam, a 12-year old label with a roster containing tens of artists and bands who seem to deserve their own Wikipedia pages, which meets criterion 5 in the list: "Has released two or more albums on a major record label or on one of the more important indie labels (i.e., an independent label with a history of more than a few years, and with a roster of performers, many of whom are independently notable)." A simple Google search gives hundreds of albums reviews and interviews by independent media, including renowned websites, French and international. Here is a list of reviews and interviews for his 2012 "Halleluyah" album alone. 85.171.44.43 ( talk) 10:37, 19 February 2015 (UTC) — 85.171.44.43 ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- Keep: I completely agree, this is nothing more than respecting the Wikipedia's terms.
I wrote a more complete article here, contesting the deletion of the Igorrr page : /info/en/?search=User_talk:Aeternus David. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mpolkiujhy ( talk • contribs) 11:21, 19 February 2015 (UTC) — Mpolkiujhy ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- Keep:Igorrr is definitely a notable artist. Precursor in the electronic scene and a donor of fresh air in the metal music according to numerous reviews such as Les Inrocks, Trax, Rock 'a' Rolla, Side-Line, Sputnik, etc.
His "Chicken's Symphony" made really a buzz and it was diffused in Canal + and the Japanese TV NHK.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7D4ofrssoUQ&feature=youtu.be Canal+ : http://www.canalplus.fr/c-infos-documentaires/c-ms-l-oeil-de-links/pid7534-l-emission.html?vid=1199284 NHK Tv: https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10152612560643049&set=vb.241913148048&type=2&theater — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bagienna ( talk • contribs) 11:49, 19 February 2015 (UTC) — Bagienna ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- Delete: Nope, not convinced. YouTube and Facebook aren't reliable sources, and a teensy indie label doesn't become a "major" indie label just because it has some artists whom someone thinks ought to have Wikipedia articles. I appreciate that the band has some fans, and I'm sure they'll do a bang up job of creating a fan site somewhere. It just doesn't belong on Wikipedia. Nha Trang Allons! 18:40, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
- Keep:It seems like they're using Facebook or YouTube to make it easier for us to check how popular the band is, but obviously, we can find the same informations on the official sites. NHK : [1] and Dour Festival : </ref> http://www.dourfestival.eu/artist/detail/Igorrr/</ref>.
I know about NHK as the biggest TV in Japan and Dour Festival as the most popular festival in all Europe (almost 200.000 people this last years when Igorrr was playing [2]). According to the post I see above, Igorrr was apparently interviewed by Canal+, this makes the Igorrr place in Wikipedia definitely relevant to me. 79.194.6.98 ( talk) 08:50, 20 February 2015 (UTC) — 79.194.6.98 ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- Keep:User Nha Trang wrote: 'a teensy indie label doesn't become a "major" indie label just because it has some artists whom someone thinks ought to have Wikipedia articles'. I was saying that this "teensy indie label" has tens of artists who already have their own Wikipedia pages, i.e. recognized as significants artists. Sorry if I did not make this clear in my first comment.
Also, I know that 'YouTube and Facebook aren't reliable sources', but the Facebook link I provided gives, in turn, links to tens of reviews and interviews of Igorrr, some of which you may think are notable. Finally, about the current sockpuppet investigation, I just want to mention that Aeternus, who filed this article for deletion, also launched the SPI when he saw three people coming here to defend Igorrr and Ad Noiseam. In fact, the head of Ad Noiseam posted something on Youtube about hiw the Ad Noiseam and Igorrr pages were filed for deletion, and some of us "fans" came here to defend them. The FB pos was not a call: we fans decided to give our opinion. 85.171.44.43 ( talk) 09:09, 20 February 2015 (UTC) — 85.171.44.43 ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of France-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 23:25, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 23:25, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
- Note: There is a major canvassing and meatpuppetry going on, as someone has apparently made a Facebook call to defend Igorrr's notability. Also, there is an ongoing sockpuppet investigation involving users Mpolkiujhy and Bagienna. -- Λeternus (talk) 09:03, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Coffee // have a cup // beans // 00:36, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
- Keep: Seems that the label who released his four albums proved its notability very recently as a major indie label [ [1]], so the 5th point of notability criteria for music artists seems to be filled. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.72.85.185 ( talk) 07:56, 3 March 2015 (UTC) — 89.72.85.185 ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Coffee // have a cup // beans // 01:37, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
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