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Non-notable musician. Simply competing in Melodifestivalen does not make one notable (they must perform well). No charting singles. Fails
WP:MUSIC.
{ [ ( jjj1238 ) ] } 19:19, 10 February 2018 (UTC)reply
Keep - Is a notable musician. Has worked as a noted songwriter for years for soundtracks for films and TV (Små citroner gula, Gåsmamman), touring with other singers. Has had a leading role as an actress in TV series on Sveriges Television. Participaties in Melodifestivalen which is notable and will lead to charting of her latest song. Has been the writer and producer of several commercials for noted brands. Fully referenced. Per WP:GNG.
BabbaQ (
talk) 20:46, 10 February 2018 (UTC)reply
Strong keep - Agree with what's mentioned above.
J 1982 (
talk) 22:01, 10 February 2018 (UTC)reply
Strong keep - Very notable and I totally agree with anyone who feels the same, too much deletion for no good reason is in no ones best interest.
Davidgoodheart (
talk) 22:13, 10 February 2018 (UTC)reply
Keep The nominator has been a bit trigger happy on the twinkle button. If your not a charting artist, then you need to have achieved attention for your work elsewhere, which seems to be the case here. Also short bio. on
Allmusic.
Mattg82 (
talk) 23:06, 10 February 2018 (UTC)reply
When I made this nomination there was nothing in the article except for a line stating she's in
Melodifestivalen 2018 and a discography section with one single that has not charted anywhere. It is not my fault for nominating if there is nothing in the article that shows why they'd be notable.
{ [ ( jjj1238 ) ] } 23:09, 10 February 2018 (UTC)reply
That's not true. According to
WP:NEXIST "The absence of sources or citations in an article (as distinct from the non-existence of sources) does not indicate that a subject is not notable. Notability requires only the existence of suitable independent, reliable sources, not their immediate presence or citation in an article. Editors evaluating notability should consider not only any sources currently named in an article but also the possibility or existence of notability-indicating sources that are not currently named in the article. Thus, before proposing or nominating an article for deletion, or offering an opinion based on notability in a deletion discussion, editors are strongly encouraged to attempt to find sources for the subject in question and consider the possibility of existent sources if none can be found by a search."
Lonehexagon (
talk) 23:22, 10 February 2018 (UTC)reply
Sorry to pile it on, I'm sure you nominated in good faith. The article was created by an established editor, so giving the editor a friendly nudge on their talk page to give them chance to improve it is probably what should have happened here, along with
WP:BEFORE.
Mattg82 (
talk) 23:34, 10 February 2018 (UTC)reply
I also think that the nom was made in good faith. But adding this article to AfD just a minute before also adding
Stiko Per Larsson for AfD seems a bit trigger happy. Anyway the articles are further improved now.
BabbaQ (
talk) 23:48, 10 February 2018 (UTC)reply
Delete - non-notable, no charting singles, too soon. ׺°”˜`”°º×ηυηzια׺°”˜`”°º× 10:31, 12 February 2018 (UTC)reply
You can not claim non notable when she has done notable acting work, soundtracks for Movies. etc. Drive-by !vote just like at
Stiko Per Larsson.
BabbaQ (
talk) 12:04, 12 February 2018 (UTC)reply
Strong keep, and I hope BabbaQ will proceed with article creation for the other participants too.
Adville (
talk) 22:10, 13 February 2018 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
Non-notable musician. Simply competing in Melodifestivalen does not make one notable (they must perform well). No charting singles. Fails
WP:MUSIC.
{ [ ( jjj1238 ) ] } 19:19, 10 February 2018 (UTC)reply
Keep - Is a notable musician. Has worked as a noted songwriter for years for soundtracks for films and TV (Små citroner gula, Gåsmamman), touring with other singers. Has had a leading role as an actress in TV series on Sveriges Television. Participaties in Melodifestivalen which is notable and will lead to charting of her latest song. Has been the writer and producer of several commercials for noted brands. Fully referenced. Per WP:GNG.
BabbaQ (
talk) 20:46, 10 February 2018 (UTC)reply
Strong keep - Agree with what's mentioned above.
J 1982 (
talk) 22:01, 10 February 2018 (UTC)reply
Strong keep - Very notable and I totally agree with anyone who feels the same, too much deletion for no good reason is in no ones best interest.
Davidgoodheart (
talk) 22:13, 10 February 2018 (UTC)reply
Keep The nominator has been a bit trigger happy on the twinkle button. If your not a charting artist, then you need to have achieved attention for your work elsewhere, which seems to be the case here. Also short bio. on
Allmusic.
Mattg82 (
talk) 23:06, 10 February 2018 (UTC)reply
When I made this nomination there was nothing in the article except for a line stating she's in
Melodifestivalen 2018 and a discography section with one single that has not charted anywhere. It is not my fault for nominating if there is nothing in the article that shows why they'd be notable.
{ [ ( jjj1238 ) ] } 23:09, 10 February 2018 (UTC)reply
That's not true. According to
WP:NEXIST "The absence of sources or citations in an article (as distinct from the non-existence of sources) does not indicate that a subject is not notable. Notability requires only the existence of suitable independent, reliable sources, not their immediate presence or citation in an article. Editors evaluating notability should consider not only any sources currently named in an article but also the possibility or existence of notability-indicating sources that are not currently named in the article. Thus, before proposing or nominating an article for deletion, or offering an opinion based on notability in a deletion discussion, editors are strongly encouraged to attempt to find sources for the subject in question and consider the possibility of existent sources if none can be found by a search."
Lonehexagon (
talk) 23:22, 10 February 2018 (UTC)reply
Sorry to pile it on, I'm sure you nominated in good faith. The article was created by an established editor, so giving the editor a friendly nudge on their talk page to give them chance to improve it is probably what should have happened here, along with
WP:BEFORE.
Mattg82 (
talk) 23:34, 10 February 2018 (UTC)reply
I also think that the nom was made in good faith. But adding this article to AfD just a minute before also adding
Stiko Per Larsson for AfD seems a bit trigger happy. Anyway the articles are further improved now.
BabbaQ (
talk) 23:48, 10 February 2018 (UTC)reply
Delete - non-notable, no charting singles, too soon. ׺°”˜`”°º×ηυηzια׺°”˜`”°º× 10:31, 12 February 2018 (UTC)reply
You can not claim non notable when she has done notable acting work, soundtracks for Movies. etc. Drive-by !vote just like at
Stiko Per Larsson.
BabbaQ (
talk) 12:04, 12 February 2018 (UTC)reply
Strong keep, and I hope BabbaQ will proceed with article creation for the other participants too.
Adville (
talk) 22:10, 13 February 2018 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.