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The result was delete‎. ✗ plicit 14:25, 7 July 2023 (UTC) reply

Husejin Konavic (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log | edits since nomination)

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Unsourced, one of the oldest orphans on Wikipedia, and article contains only 2 paragraphs of content. Fails WP:GNG 🌶️ Jala peño🌶️ Don't click this link! 10:34, 30 June 2023 (UTC) reply

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Politicians, Politics, Montenegro, and Yugoslavia. 🌶️ Jala peño🌶️ Don't click this link! 10:34, 30 June 2023 (UTC) reply

Comment Delete I can't find a source for this guy. If the bio is correct, he meets WP:NPOL as a member of the Yugoslavia legislature. However, we still need to be able to WP:verify that. The website for the Archives of Yugoslavia appears to be dead. Anyone know where to look for information on lawmakers from the former Yugoslavia? TulsaPoliticsFan ( talk) 15:40, 30 June 2023 (UTC) Vote changed TulsaPoliticsFan ( talk) 19:30, 30 June 2023 (UTC) reply

I'm not sure. My grandfather was a major diplomat and member of the SKJ, so he might have known that, but he's been dead for years. The website's also been down since June 8, according to the Internet Archive.

P.S. This page is a copyright infringement. The entire contents of the page are from another website. WHICH JUST SO HAPPENS TO BE ON THE BLACKLIST. 🌶️ Jala peño🌶️ Don't click this link! 16:26, 30 June 2023 (UTC) reply

And not even the site the G12 tag refers to (HowOld [dot] co) has him in their listings. Is there something I missed in the meantime? -- Slgrandson ( How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 16:58, 30 June 2023 (UTC) reply

It does, I have the link. (HowOld [dot] co/person/husejin-konavic/biography) 🌶️ Jala peño🌶️ Don't click this link! 17:06, 30 June 2023 (UTC) reply

HowOld is a web scraper and copied the contents from Wikipedia. It says so right on the page. -- Whpq ( talk) 17:17, 30 June 2023 (UTC) reply

Ah, my bad 🌶️ Jala peño🌶️ Don't click this link! 17:22, 30 June 2023 (UTC) reply

Which, upon further inspection, clearly seems to be copying from WP as a mirror (with attribution) rather than the other way around.

On an additional note, this is the only remaining Wikimedia contribution from Frmtr123 ( talk · contribs) (from way back in mid-January + mid-June 2012). -- Slgrandson ( How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 17:19, 30 June 2023 (UTC) reply

• On the verge of delete per copyvio/ sourcing concerns respectively raised by Jalapeño and TPF (unless Wikipedians from Serbia and Montenegro chime in and try their best to give us a hand). For a late Eastern European politician of such purported stature, not even the barest amount of mention/attestation at the usual databases (GBooks/GScholar/PQ/EBSCO/Gale/JSTOR/newspaper outlets) is around to show for it. Nothing through basic Googling outside WP, a couple of mirrors, and a few more lesser sites. Sorry, folks—I honestly tried my best. -- Slgrandson ( How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 16:49, 30 June 2023 (UTC) reply

• Delete as failing verifiability thought I am leaning towards hoax on this. It is simply not believable that a government cabinet minister (minister of education) has no coverage about him whatsoever. The article has never had any sourcing that I can see. -- Whpq ( talk) 17:30, 30 June 2023 (UTC) reply
• Delete: Appears to be a hoax. No person like this seems to have existed; the article purports he was minister of education, but he does not show up in any issue of an annual publication like The Statesman's Yearbook. Also, despite purportedly having radical policies that were much discussed, there is nor a single mention of him at all on Google or GBooks in English or Serbian, which one would expect from a controversial national minister. Curbon7 ( talk) 19:03, 30 June 2023 (UTC) reply

  After spending an hour scrolling through Serbian Wikipedia's categories relating to Yugoslavian politicians, I think @ Curbon7 is probably right here. TulsaPoliticsFan ( talk) 19:14, 30 June 2023 (UTC) reply

• Delete. There's significant evidence that this might be a hoax — and even in the event that it isn't, we would still need reliable sources to properly verify that he was real. Even for a real person whose article claims to pass NPOL, we still have to be able to locate legitimate verification that the claim to passing NPOL is true. Bearcat ( talk) 15:25, 1 July 2023 (UTC) reply
• Delete fails verifiability lacks sources fails WP:GNG. Pharaoh of the Wizards ( talk) 23:34, 1 July 2023 (UTC) reply
• Delete: Possible hoax, fails verifiability and WP:GNG. Maliner ( talk) 06:12, 2 July 2023 (UTC) reply
• Delete: per others, seems to be a hoax from a WP:SPA whose contributions include only this article. – Vipz ( talk) 16:10, 3 July 2023 (UTC) reply

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.