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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Liz Read! Talk! 22:35, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
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- Hugh Elliott (film editor) ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log | edits since nomination)
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Sourcing is almost entirely based on websites that just list his credits; any more in-depth articles focus on a band he was in, which doesn't confer notability to him. Worth noting that the main author, 1sjjmhbt0 ( talk · contribs), is an apparent SPA; given that the subject's website prominently promotes his Wikipedia article, a COI wouldn't shock me (1sjjmhbt0, I hope I'm wrong; your feedback on this would be much appreciated). RunningTiger123 ( talk) 21:44, 13 December 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Actors and filmmakers, Bands and musicians, California, and Texas. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 21:49, 13 December 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. RunningTiger123 ( talk) 21:51, 13 December 2022 (UTC)
- Update: I checked File:Hugh Elliott2.jpg, and the author says "Hugh Elliott" but links to 1sjjmhbt0. Seems like a pretty clear COI to me; 1sjjmhbt0 (Hugh), if you cannot explain this behavior, WP:COIN would be the next step. RunningTiger123 ( talk) 22:26, 13 December 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for pinging - def needs updating. I built this way back and haven't given a close look since, but it has apparently stood the test of time (11 yrs?). Inspired by what I viewed as valid notoriety deserving of a wiki. "The band" created music that helped advance jazz. Publications like Boston Globe and Jazz Times don't review just any CD - they not only reviewed but applauded. Also, reaching #1 on the college music charts is highly significant. Some of these ref links directly cite Hugh Elliott, but need to be updated - they have since changed, modernized to require logins, etc. This seems the primary issue. Ref 1 is the actual Emmy Nomination release, which can be reffed on Emmy's official site. The nom is additionally corroborated by IMDB, data one is not able to self-submit; cannot fake. This seems to validate edit/production accomplishment(s), Deadliest Catch and Discovery. Which then, it seems, further validates full body of IMDB page/credits. To avoid rights issues, the pic is self-owned; safe from rights violations. In that personal site links to wiki... not seeing how this justifies concern. Again, will work to update cited refs asap. Further advice welcome.
76.86.24.62 (
talk)
14:49, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
- If you're looking for additional advice, I would suggest
WP:N for a discussion of notability requirements (including what significant coverage means) and
WP:IMDB for why IMDb is discouraged. Also, if you are Hugh or are related to Hugh personally, I strongly urge you to read through
WP:COI (especially
WP:DISCLOSE and
WP:SELFPROMOTE) before making edits.
RunningTiger123 (
talk)
15:40, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
- Hey all, Hugh here. I recommend you go ahead and blast it - do what's best for wiki. In my world there's just not the time or resources to place care on this right now. Thanks for working hard to keep wiki clean.
- Hugh 1sjjmhbt0 ( talk) 13:02, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
- If you're looking for additional advice, I would suggest
WP:N for a discussion of notability requirements (including what significant coverage means) and
WP:IMDB for why IMDb is discouraged. Also, if you are Hugh or are related to Hugh personally, I strongly urge you to read through
WP:COI (especially
WP:DISCLOSE and
WP:SELFPROMOTE) before making edits.
RunningTiger123 (
talk)
15:40, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Extraordinary Writ ( talk) 22:20, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
- Delete—agree with nominator that there appear to be no readily available web articles or newspaper articles which focus on Elliott as their topic. Even the Bio page for Elliott on the Jazz Punks site contains no information, though if there was info we wouldn't want it as its too closely related to the subject. --User:Ceyockey ( talk to me) 23:29, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Liz Read! Talk! 22:35, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
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- Hugh Elliott (film editor) ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log | edits since nomination)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
Sourcing is almost entirely based on websites that just list his credits; any more in-depth articles focus on a band he was in, which doesn't confer notability to him. Worth noting that the main author, 1sjjmhbt0 ( talk · contribs), is an apparent SPA; given that the subject's website prominently promotes his Wikipedia article, a COI wouldn't shock me (1sjjmhbt0, I hope I'm wrong; your feedback on this would be much appreciated). RunningTiger123 ( talk) 21:44, 13 December 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Actors and filmmakers, Bands and musicians, California, and Texas. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 21:49, 13 December 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. RunningTiger123 ( talk) 21:51, 13 December 2022 (UTC)
- Update: I checked File:Hugh Elliott2.jpg, and the author says "Hugh Elliott" but links to 1sjjmhbt0. Seems like a pretty clear COI to me; 1sjjmhbt0 (Hugh), if you cannot explain this behavior, WP:COIN would be the next step. RunningTiger123 ( talk) 22:26, 13 December 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for pinging - def needs updating. I built this way back and haven't given a close look since, but it has apparently stood the test of time (11 yrs?). Inspired by what I viewed as valid notoriety deserving of a wiki. "The band" created music that helped advance jazz. Publications like Boston Globe and Jazz Times don't review just any CD - they not only reviewed but applauded. Also, reaching #1 on the college music charts is highly significant. Some of these ref links directly cite Hugh Elliott, but need to be updated - they have since changed, modernized to require logins, etc. This seems the primary issue. Ref 1 is the actual Emmy Nomination release, which can be reffed on Emmy's official site. The nom is additionally corroborated by IMDB, data one is not able to self-submit; cannot fake. This seems to validate edit/production accomplishment(s), Deadliest Catch and Discovery. Which then, it seems, further validates full body of IMDB page/credits. To avoid rights issues, the pic is self-owned; safe from rights violations. In that personal site links to wiki... not seeing how this justifies concern. Again, will work to update cited refs asap. Further advice welcome.
76.86.24.62 (
talk)
14:49, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
- If you're looking for additional advice, I would suggest
WP:N for a discussion of notability requirements (including what significant coverage means) and
WP:IMDB for why IMDb is discouraged. Also, if you are Hugh or are related to Hugh personally, I strongly urge you to read through
WP:COI (especially
WP:DISCLOSE and
WP:SELFPROMOTE) before making edits.
RunningTiger123 (
talk)
15:40, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
- Hey all, Hugh here. I recommend you go ahead and blast it - do what's best for wiki. In my world there's just not the time or resources to place care on this right now. Thanks for working hard to keep wiki clean.
- Hugh 1sjjmhbt0 ( talk) 13:02, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
- If you're looking for additional advice, I would suggest
WP:N for a discussion of notability requirements (including what significant coverage means) and
WP:IMDB for why IMDb is discouraged. Also, if you are Hugh or are related to Hugh personally, I strongly urge you to read through
WP:COI (especially
WP:DISCLOSE and
WP:SELFPROMOTE) before making edits.
RunningTiger123 (
talk)
15:40, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Extraordinary Writ ( talk) 22:20, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
- Delete—agree with nominator that there appear to be no readily available web articles or newspaper articles which focus on Elliott as their topic. Even the Bio page for Elliott on the Jazz Punks site contains no information, though if there was info we wouldn't want it as its too closely related to the subject. --User:Ceyockey ( talk to me) 23:29, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.