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The result was delete. There is clear consensus that the article currently doesn't meet the standards for verifiability required. I am willing to draftify this on request, noting that my preference would be for said editor requesting to be then willing to work on the draft (rather than it sitting in draftspace doing nothing). Daniel ( talk) 00:54, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
House of Dinajara
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No WP:RS at all, either in English or Sinhala. Looks like a copy/paste creation. If I assume good faith, this article is at best WP:OR if not WP:FRINGE. WP:HOAX, if bad intent is assumed. Either way, Someone has done a very awful job at creating this content originally. Chanaka L ( talk) 13:49, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sri Lanka-related deletion discussions. -- Chanaka L ( talk) 13:57, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete per nom. Could be OR or even a WP:HOAX as nom suggests, but it should be deleted because it fails WP:V without the usual mitigation that sources may exist. I doubt very much if any do exist. No Great Shaker ( talk) 15:12, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
- Comment While I can find no reference for the name "Dinajara", these related monarchs of the Kingdom of Kandy did exist. See, e.g., Kingdom_of_Kandy#Consolidation_and_interactions_with_the_Dutch:_1594–1739 and included references and Nayaks_of_Kandy#Kandy_before_the_Nayaks. Whether as the last Sinhalese rulers of Kandy (Kandy Mahanuwara dynasty per the latter article) there is enough material to support a standalone article is not clear to me, and the current unreferenced state is unhelpful. Perhaps draftify? 68.189.242.116 ( talk) 18:49, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
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- Draftify, it currently lacks any verifiable reliable secondary sources however if some can be found then it can be reassessed as to whether it satisfies WP:GNG. Dan arndt ( talk) 05:21, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
- Comment, I am opposed to draftifying option here. Per Wikipedia:Core content policies, the content should be WP:Verifiable and No WP:OR. Therefore, I don't see a point in keeping a draft and improve, if it is not verifiable. If the problem is the quality, then I am not against draftifying. Cheers-- Chanaka L ( talk) 12:43, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
- Draft - obviously notable subject if verifiable, but not ready. Return to draft until better sources emerge. Iskandar323 ( talk) 16:04, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
- Keep but tag for verification. I do not think this is a hoax; if it is, someone has created a whole string of hoax articles. Vira Narendra Sinha of Kandy has a template listing all the kings of this dynasty, who are also listed in a table in this article. I suspect this is a case where someone is applying excessive standards for RS or is ignoring material that is not in English. I do not read Singhalese and so am unable to say more. I note that Kingdom of Kandy has no table of monarchs - probably because that is in this article; and appears to tell history from a Dutch point of view. Peterkingiron ( talk) 16:20, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
- Delete There hasn't been evidence presented that WP:SOURCESEXIST calling this group of monarchs the "House of Dinajara." I'd be okay moving this into draft space if an editor provided some evidence from a non wiki source to verify this very basic claim. Qwaiiplayer ( talk) 12:39, 19 October 2021 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. There is clear consensus that the article currently doesn't meet the standards for verifiability required. I am willing to draftify this on request, noting that my preference would be for said editor requesting to be then willing to work on the draft (rather than it sitting in draftspace doing nothing). Daniel ( talk) 00:54, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
House of Dinajara
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No WP:RS at all, either in English or Sinhala. Looks like a copy/paste creation. If I assume good faith, this article is at best WP:OR if not WP:FRINGE. WP:HOAX, if bad intent is assumed. Either way, Someone has done a very awful job at creating this content originally. Chanaka L ( talk) 13:49, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sri Lanka-related deletion discussions. -- Chanaka L ( talk) 13:57, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions. Shellwood ( talk) 14:02, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Could be OR or even a WP:HOAX as nom suggests, but it should be deleted because it fails WP:V without the usual mitigation that sources may exist. I doubt very much if any do exist. No Great Shaker ( talk) 15:12, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
- Comment While I can find no reference for the name "Dinajara", these related monarchs of the Kingdom of Kandy did exist. See, e.g., Kingdom_of_Kandy#Consolidation_and_interactions_with_the_Dutch:_1594–1739 and included references and Nayaks_of_Kandy#Kandy_before_the_Nayaks. Whether as the last Sinhalese rulers of Kandy (Kandy Mahanuwara dynasty per the latter article) there is enough material to support a standalone article is not clear to me, and the current unreferenced state is unhelpful. Perhaps draftify? 68.189.242.116 ( talk) 18:49, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Royalty and nobility-related deletion discussions. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 19:34, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
- Draftify, it currently lacks any verifiable reliable secondary sources however if some can be found then it can be reassessed as to whether it satisfies WP:GNG. Dan arndt ( talk) 05:21, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
- Comment, I am opposed to draftifying option here. Per Wikipedia:Core content policies, the content should be WP:Verifiable and No WP:OR. Therefore, I don't see a point in keeping a draft and improve, if it is not verifiable. If the problem is the quality, then I am not against draftifying. Cheers-- Chanaka L ( talk) 12:43, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
- Draft - obviously notable subject if verifiable, but not ready. Return to draft until better sources emerge. Iskandar323 ( talk) 16:04, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
- Keep but tag for verification. I do not think this is a hoax; if it is, someone has created a whole string of hoax articles. Vira Narendra Sinha of Kandy has a template listing all the kings of this dynasty, who are also listed in a table in this article. I suspect this is a case where someone is applying excessive standards for RS or is ignoring material that is not in English. I do not read Singhalese and so am unable to say more. I note that Kingdom of Kandy has no table of monarchs - probably because that is in this article; and appears to tell history from a Dutch point of view. Peterkingiron ( talk) 16:20, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
- Delete There hasn't been evidence presented that WP:SOURCESEXIST calling this group of monarchs the "House of Dinajara." I'd be okay moving this into draft space if an editor provided some evidence from a non wiki source to verify this very basic claim. Qwaiiplayer ( talk) 12:39, 19 October 2021 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.