The result was Keep. There is consensus below that this article is an appropriate part of our coverage of video games console history. On the other hand, there are several calls to consider renaming this article or indeed much of the "Xth generation" series that could be considered as a requested move or RfC. This closure to keep History of video game consoles (eighth generation) is without prejudice to the outcome of any such renaming discussions. Eluchil404 ( talk) 09:25, 17 June 2011 (UTC) reply
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As noted, this article has had a cycle of creation and deletion several times before. In this cycle, though the last close [1] was to delete and salt, it was gotten around by capitalizing the "E" of "Eighth", but has been subsequently moved here.)
Now, to step back, this arguably is a substantially different version of the previous deleted pages with the announcements of the Wii U and PS Vita units. But, and this is important, there are no sources that have defined either of these as "eighth generation" units. Though Nintendo, Sony, and other journalists have called them "next generation" units of units that are listed in the seventh generation, the term "next generation" is a loaded peacock term in the press simply to describe any new version of hardware. Using the facts that "Nintendo Wii is 7th gen" and "Wii U is claimed to be next gen" to come to the statement "Wii U is 8th gen" is a gross violation of WP:SYNTH at this point. It is also contrary to how generations are more commonly defined, usually based on when all console makers make major shifts in hardware and software (eg 6th to 7th gen consoles are differed by the emphasis in high definition, online functionality, and motion sensing). The consoles listed here do not drastically change the landscape of hardware, so even by that measure it is difficult to call them 8th gen units.
The short answer: there are no sources to support the "eighth generation" part of this article. The other details are either already in the seventh generation or respective console articles already. MASEM ( t) 13:03, 9 June 2011 (UTC) reply
Userfy Since gen 8 is inevitable, why don't we userfy this so the creator can work on it till it's sure of passing. He can contact those now seeking deletion for input on when that will be. It's worked in the past for not quite ready articles, and I agree community review along the way is needed to head off trouble. The creator will need to agree not to move it or recreate the article till ready.
Dloh
cierekim
19:09, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
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The result was Keep. There is consensus below that this article is an appropriate part of our coverage of video games console history. On the other hand, there are several calls to consider renaming this article or indeed much of the "Xth generation" series that could be considered as a requested move or RfC. This closure to keep History of video game consoles (eighth generation) is without prejudice to the outcome of any such renaming discussions. Eluchil404 ( talk) 09:25, 17 June 2011 (UTC) reply
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As noted, this article has had a cycle of creation and deletion several times before. In this cycle, though the last close [1] was to delete and salt, it was gotten around by capitalizing the "E" of "Eighth", but has been subsequently moved here.)
Now, to step back, this arguably is a substantially different version of the previous deleted pages with the announcements of the Wii U and PS Vita units. But, and this is important, there are no sources that have defined either of these as "eighth generation" units. Though Nintendo, Sony, and other journalists have called them "next generation" units of units that are listed in the seventh generation, the term "next generation" is a loaded peacock term in the press simply to describe any new version of hardware. Using the facts that "Nintendo Wii is 7th gen" and "Wii U is claimed to be next gen" to come to the statement "Wii U is 8th gen" is a gross violation of WP:SYNTH at this point. It is also contrary to how generations are more commonly defined, usually based on when all console makers make major shifts in hardware and software (eg 6th to 7th gen consoles are differed by the emphasis in high definition, online functionality, and motion sensing). The consoles listed here do not drastically change the landscape of hardware, so even by that measure it is difficult to call them 8th gen units.
The short answer: there are no sources to support the "eighth generation" part of this article. The other details are either already in the seventh generation or respective console articles already. MASEM ( t) 13:03, 9 June 2011 (UTC) reply
Userfy Since gen 8 is inevitable, why don't we userfy this so the creator can work on it till it's sure of passing. He can contact those now seeking deletion for input on when that will be. It's worked in the past for not quite ready articles, and I agree community review along the way is needed to head off trouble. The creator will need to agree not to move it or recreate the article till ready.
Dloh
cierekim
19:09, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
reply