The result was keep. There were no arguments for deletion aside from the nom. Any other non-deletion action can be discussed on the talk page and outside this AFD. MuZemike 01:15, 6 October 2009 (UTC) reply
"Hispanic Day" is not an independent holiday in Spain or anywhere else. Almost all google hits are for unconnected celebrations in places where Hispanics are a minority, such as the US and Canada. Otherwise "Hispanic Day" is an infrequently-used translation for "Día de la Hispanidad", which is another name for " Día de la Raza", the holiday commemorating Columbus' arrival in the Americas on October 12 and known in the US as Columbus Day. There's nothing here that can't be discussed better at Columbus day, where all the Columbus celebrations are discussed, and no citations have been added after nearly two years. Cúchullain t/ c 15:26, 28 September 2009 (UTC) reply
As for sources, here is the Spanish Minister of Labour official holiday list (only the three latest years shown)
Translation from the 'Características' tag (regional holidays aside) in any case, Christmas Day, New Year's Day, May 1st (Labour Day) and October 12 as Spain's National Holiday (Fiesta Nacional de España) will be observed as national holidays
So, in regard to that line you pull up from somewhere stating that "is not widely celebrated in Spain", I would like you to find an open office in Spain on October 12th. Dont bother: you'd find none, because it's a serious holiday (unlike in the Americas).
Here is the Ministry of Defence microsite dedicated to the upcoming National Holiday 2009
You may notice that it is in Spanish and all the Spanish regional languages, but not in English...does that talk to you? if it was celebrated in Spain as a sort of international latino day (as it happens in the Americas), it would have the correspondent English translation, right? But the thing is that this is celebrated in Spain as a domestic holiday and, as it happens, in Spain they dont count English as a national language.
Arent these still not quoted enough nor specific enough to Spain for you to accept that October 12th is not exactly the same in the Americas than in Spain?
As a side note, it is just so self-evident that it is Spain's National Day and that, as such, it has specific Spain's only value (see the interwikis in this regard, too) that I still really can't see the point in your fixation to merge this article. You are a deletionist? Fine (I am partial to that line myself) but I think you are barking at the wrong tree here MOUNTOLIVE fedeli alla linea 16:27, 30 September 2009 (UTC) reply
I guess it is the article's name is what bothers the most our nominator. In this regard, I repeat that I see no problem in renaming the article, perhaps to Spain's National Holiday (to match the official name per the Minister of Labour "Fiesta Nacional de España") or something alike.
Then it would be made clear in the article that Spain's National Day is held to celebrate what elsewhere in the Americas is Columbus Day. The former is the Spanish National Day Holiday, while the latter is basically a folkloric holiday or, in some country, also an observed holiday, but without any National Day character whatsoever. MOUNTOLIVE fedeli alla linea 16:53, 30 September 2009 (UTC) reply
The result was keep. There were no arguments for deletion aside from the nom. Any other non-deletion action can be discussed on the talk page and outside this AFD. MuZemike 01:15, 6 October 2009 (UTC) reply
"Hispanic Day" is not an independent holiday in Spain or anywhere else. Almost all google hits are for unconnected celebrations in places where Hispanics are a minority, such as the US and Canada. Otherwise "Hispanic Day" is an infrequently-used translation for "Día de la Hispanidad", which is another name for " Día de la Raza", the holiday commemorating Columbus' arrival in the Americas on October 12 and known in the US as Columbus Day. There's nothing here that can't be discussed better at Columbus day, where all the Columbus celebrations are discussed, and no citations have been added after nearly two years. Cúchullain t/ c 15:26, 28 September 2009 (UTC) reply
As for sources, here is the Spanish Minister of Labour official holiday list (only the three latest years shown)
Translation from the 'Características' tag (regional holidays aside) in any case, Christmas Day, New Year's Day, May 1st (Labour Day) and October 12 as Spain's National Holiday (Fiesta Nacional de España) will be observed as national holidays
So, in regard to that line you pull up from somewhere stating that "is not widely celebrated in Spain", I would like you to find an open office in Spain on October 12th. Dont bother: you'd find none, because it's a serious holiday (unlike in the Americas).
Here is the Ministry of Defence microsite dedicated to the upcoming National Holiday 2009
You may notice that it is in Spanish and all the Spanish regional languages, but not in English...does that talk to you? if it was celebrated in Spain as a sort of international latino day (as it happens in the Americas), it would have the correspondent English translation, right? But the thing is that this is celebrated in Spain as a domestic holiday and, as it happens, in Spain they dont count English as a national language.
Arent these still not quoted enough nor specific enough to Spain for you to accept that October 12th is not exactly the same in the Americas than in Spain?
As a side note, it is just so self-evident that it is Spain's National Day and that, as such, it has specific Spain's only value (see the interwikis in this regard, too) that I still really can't see the point in your fixation to merge this article. You are a deletionist? Fine (I am partial to that line myself) but I think you are barking at the wrong tree here MOUNTOLIVE fedeli alla linea 16:27, 30 September 2009 (UTC) reply
I guess it is the article's name is what bothers the most our nominator. In this regard, I repeat that I see no problem in renaming the article, perhaps to Spain's National Holiday (to match the official name per the Minister of Labour "Fiesta Nacional de España") or something alike.
Then it would be made clear in the article that Spain's National Day is held to celebrate what elsewhere in the Americas is Columbus Day. The former is the Spanish National Day Holiday, while the latter is basically a folkloric holiday or, in some country, also an observed holiday, but without any National Day character whatsoever. MOUNTOLIVE fedeli alla linea 16:53, 30 September 2009 (UTC) reply