Comment: Don't like any of those redirect proposals because neither
Hell nor
Euphemism includes anything about "heck". Pretty frustrating to look up something and get an article that doesn't even mention the word being looked up. I'm thinking there should be a request for a software feature that would allow redirects to include a comment, i.e. instead of "Redirected from Heck", "Redirected from Heck (a euphemism for Hell)." I'm leaning toward "keep and see whether it grows," because the word has a somewhat odd status: it's a euphemism that's on its way to becoming archaic because the referent is no longer taboo. Consequently, it is more of a joke now—it's put into the mouths of characters to show that they're old-fashioned or extremely fastidious—than a live euphemism.
Dpbsmith 15:14, 28 May 2004 (UTC)reply
Vote to keep. This could become a decent article, I think.
Rhymeless 21:35, 28 May 2004 (UTC)reply
Nice theory, but wrong. It's a euphemism for hell, created in the days when saying "what the hell" (which is something only pool players and loose women were allowed) got you into trouble. It is parallelled by the nerdy "H-E-double toothpicks." One argument negating its tie with Hecuba is that, for a profanity to be effective, one must have heard of the name or place being profaned. Even today, I would wager that less than 25% of the population have even heard (or claim they have), and only a small minority could tell you who, where, or what a "Hecuba" is.
Denni 17:40, 31 May 2004 (UTC)reply
Keep, and hope that someone can combine it with 'darn,' 'gosh,' 'and 'gee whiz' in a
Hopelessly outdated euphemisms article.
Denni 21:34, 29 May 2004 (UTC)reply
Keep, since none of the suggested redirect destinations actually say anything about the word "heck". -
Sean 00:34, 30 May 2004 (UTC)reply
Move to Wiktionary and delete.
Rossami 03:40, 1 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Euphemism now has a section on religious, excretory, and sexual euphemisms. This will no doubt please many ten year olds.
Denni 05:15, 1 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Comment: Don't like any of those redirect proposals because neither
Hell nor
Euphemism includes anything about "heck". Pretty frustrating to look up something and get an article that doesn't even mention the word being looked up. I'm thinking there should be a request for a software feature that would allow redirects to include a comment, i.e. instead of "Redirected from Heck", "Redirected from Heck (a euphemism for Hell)." I'm leaning toward "keep and see whether it grows," because the word has a somewhat odd status: it's a euphemism that's on its way to becoming archaic because the referent is no longer taboo. Consequently, it is more of a joke now—it's put into the mouths of characters to show that they're old-fashioned or extremely fastidious—than a live euphemism.
Dpbsmith 15:14, 28 May 2004 (UTC)reply
Vote to keep. This could become a decent article, I think.
Rhymeless 21:35, 28 May 2004 (UTC)reply
Nice theory, but wrong. It's a euphemism for hell, created in the days when saying "what the hell" (which is something only pool players and loose women were allowed) got you into trouble. It is parallelled by the nerdy "H-E-double toothpicks." One argument negating its tie with Hecuba is that, for a profanity to be effective, one must have heard of the name or place being profaned. Even today, I would wager that less than 25% of the population have even heard (or claim they have), and only a small minority could tell you who, where, or what a "Hecuba" is.
Denni 17:40, 31 May 2004 (UTC)reply
Keep, and hope that someone can combine it with 'darn,' 'gosh,' 'and 'gee whiz' in a
Hopelessly outdated euphemisms article.
Denni 21:34, 29 May 2004 (UTC)reply
Keep, since none of the suggested redirect destinations actually say anything about the word "heck". -
Sean 00:34, 30 May 2004 (UTC)reply
Move to Wiktionary and delete.
Rossami 03:40, 1 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Euphemism now has a section on religious, excretory, and sexual euphemisms. This will no doubt please many ten year olds.
Denni 05:15, 1 Jun 2004 (UTC)