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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk, contributions) 16:38, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
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The article does not contain much information pertaining to notability, or at least not as supported by reliable, secondary sources.-- Farang Rak Tham ( talk) 21:05, 15 January 2018 (UTC) Farang Rak Tham ( talk) 21:05, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
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- Delete a bunch of notable people owning works you created does not show that an artist is notable. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 21:54, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
- I only recently read the policy but it seems to me that it says this artist is notable. The policy is called WP:Artist, check section 4, part d. part b may also be relevant. Also my understanding is that her awards are also of relevance. Regards. Ilyina Olya Yakovna ( talk) 22:53, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
- I believe the awards listed could not be much less notable than they already are. To wit: "2006 Dog Writers' Association of America Best Illustration Award".
198.58.161.137 (
talk)
09:50, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
- I suppose they are not, the awards related to the Society of Canadian Artists look impressive but I can't seem to find out what they really are. My comment is mostly about "a bunch of notable people owning works you created", when the policy says that if notable galleries own a person's work then that makes the artist notable. And also the policy says that if the work has been in a major exhibition the artist is also notable. No one seems to be paying attention to the exhibitions, or the owners of this artists work despite the fact that this could very well make the artist notable.
Ilyina Olya Yakovna (
talk)
12:19, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
- The exhibitions in cafes and community centres are also less than notable. A significant exhibition, as mentioned in WP:ARTIST is something like the Venice Biennale 198.58.161.137 ( talk) 18:15, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
- I suppose they are not, the awards related to the Society of Canadian Artists look impressive but I can't seem to find out what they really are. My comment is mostly about "a bunch of notable people owning works you created", when the policy says that if notable galleries own a person's work then that makes the artist notable. And also the policy says that if the work has been in a major exhibition the artist is also notable. No one seems to be paying attention to the exhibitions, or the owners of this artists work despite the fact that this could very well make the artist notable.
Ilyina Olya Yakovna (
talk)
12:19, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
- Sorry I should have been specific, I am referring to the exhibitions at the
Toronto International Art Fair, Loch Gallery and Abbozzo Gallery, and also the six exhibitions the
Art Gallery of Burlington which I see is an important gallery described as the "seventh largest public art gallery in Ontario". I no nothing of the "juried exhibitions" but there are some named galleries in that list also. There are also the Society Of Artists exhibitions which I again don't know anything about and might be the ones you were referring to.
Ilyina Olya Yakovna (
talk)
20:04, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
- The Burlington Art Centre? Not the same as the
Art Gallery of Burlington. The
Toronto International Art Fair, Loch Gallery and Abbozzo Gallery are all commercial venues. In any case, we do not go by venue (unless it is something very significant, in which case we can look at WP:ARTIST more). We use this standard: NOTABILITY IS ESTABLISHED BY WIDE, IN-DEPTH COVERAGE in RELIABLE SOURCES. Please read
WP:RS,
WP:GNG and
WP:ARTIST. You do not seem to understand how notability works, and those pages may help. Also, look at at the experienced editors voting delete on this page, for good reasons. Read their reasons as well. This page is a quite clear delete. If she had a number of good references it would be OK, but there are not enough to establish notability. That's my last comment on that.
198.58.161.137 (
talk)
07:17, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
- That's good enough for me, I will recommend Delete now on the basis that the possible importance of the galleries has been looked at and is they are not important enough for the WP:ARTIST policy to be relevant. Ilyina Olya Yakovna ( talk) 10:29, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
- The Burlington Art Centre? Not the same as the
Art Gallery of Burlington. The
Toronto International Art Fair, Loch Gallery and Abbozzo Gallery are all commercial venues. In any case, we do not go by venue (unless it is something very significant, in which case we can look at WP:ARTIST more). We use this standard: NOTABILITY IS ESTABLISHED BY WIDE, IN-DEPTH COVERAGE in RELIABLE SOURCES. Please read
WP:RS,
WP:GNG and
WP:ARTIST. You do not seem to understand how notability works, and those pages may help. Also, look at at the experienced editors voting delete on this page, for good reasons. Read their reasons as well. This page is a quite clear delete. If she had a number of good references it would be OK, but there are not enough to establish notability. That's my last comment on that.
198.58.161.137 (
talk)
07:17, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
- I believe the awards listed could not be much less notable than they already are. To wit: "2006 Dog Writers' Association of America Best Illustration Award".
198.58.161.137 (
talk)
09:50, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
- Delete as the awards are not significant awards (member shows, etc) and do not establish notability. Also the page appears to be a close paraphrase of the artist's website: http://heatherhorton.com/biography/ -- Theredproject ( talk) 01:53, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
- Delete non-notable awards. Page written like a CV, although that's not a deletion criteria. Nothing turns up in Gnews. One reference in article. Does nto meet WP:GNG. 198.58.161.137 ( talk) 09:48, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
- Delete as a CV. Agricola44 ( talk) 14:53, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk, contributions) 16:38, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
- Heather Horton ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
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The article does not contain much information pertaining to notability, or at least not as supported by reliable, secondary sources.-- Farang Rak Tham ( talk) 21:05, 15 January 2018 (UTC) Farang Rak Tham ( talk) 21:05, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
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- Delete a bunch of notable people owning works you created does not show that an artist is notable. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 21:54, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
- I only recently read the policy but it seems to me that it says this artist is notable. The policy is called WP:Artist, check section 4, part d. part b may also be relevant. Also my understanding is that her awards are also of relevance. Regards. Ilyina Olya Yakovna ( talk) 22:53, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
- I believe the awards listed could not be much less notable than they already are. To wit: "2006 Dog Writers' Association of America Best Illustration Award".
198.58.161.137 (
talk)
09:50, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
- I suppose they are not, the awards related to the Society of Canadian Artists look impressive but I can't seem to find out what they really are. My comment is mostly about "a bunch of notable people owning works you created", when the policy says that if notable galleries own a person's work then that makes the artist notable. And also the policy says that if the work has been in a major exhibition the artist is also notable. No one seems to be paying attention to the exhibitions, or the owners of this artists work despite the fact that this could very well make the artist notable.
Ilyina Olya Yakovna (
talk)
12:19, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
- The exhibitions in cafes and community centres are also less than notable. A significant exhibition, as mentioned in WP:ARTIST is something like the Venice Biennale 198.58.161.137 ( talk) 18:15, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
- I suppose they are not, the awards related to the Society of Canadian Artists look impressive but I can't seem to find out what they really are. My comment is mostly about "a bunch of notable people owning works you created", when the policy says that if notable galleries own a person's work then that makes the artist notable. And also the policy says that if the work has been in a major exhibition the artist is also notable. No one seems to be paying attention to the exhibitions, or the owners of this artists work despite the fact that this could very well make the artist notable.
Ilyina Olya Yakovna (
talk)
12:19, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
- Sorry I should have been specific, I am referring to the exhibitions at the
Toronto International Art Fair, Loch Gallery and Abbozzo Gallery, and also the six exhibitions the
Art Gallery of Burlington which I see is an important gallery described as the "seventh largest public art gallery in Ontario". I no nothing of the "juried exhibitions" but there are some named galleries in that list also. There are also the Society Of Artists exhibitions which I again don't know anything about and might be the ones you were referring to.
Ilyina Olya Yakovna (
talk)
20:04, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
- The Burlington Art Centre? Not the same as the
Art Gallery of Burlington. The
Toronto International Art Fair, Loch Gallery and Abbozzo Gallery are all commercial venues. In any case, we do not go by venue (unless it is something very significant, in which case we can look at WP:ARTIST more). We use this standard: NOTABILITY IS ESTABLISHED BY WIDE, IN-DEPTH COVERAGE in RELIABLE SOURCES. Please read
WP:RS,
WP:GNG and
WP:ARTIST. You do not seem to understand how notability works, and those pages may help. Also, look at at the experienced editors voting delete on this page, for good reasons. Read their reasons as well. This page is a quite clear delete. If she had a number of good references it would be OK, but there are not enough to establish notability. That's my last comment on that.
198.58.161.137 (
talk)
07:17, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
- That's good enough for me, I will recommend Delete now on the basis that the possible importance of the galleries has been looked at and is they are not important enough for the WP:ARTIST policy to be relevant. Ilyina Olya Yakovna ( talk) 10:29, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
- The Burlington Art Centre? Not the same as the
Art Gallery of Burlington. The
Toronto International Art Fair, Loch Gallery and Abbozzo Gallery are all commercial venues. In any case, we do not go by venue (unless it is something very significant, in which case we can look at WP:ARTIST more). We use this standard: NOTABILITY IS ESTABLISHED BY WIDE, IN-DEPTH COVERAGE in RELIABLE SOURCES. Please read
WP:RS,
WP:GNG and
WP:ARTIST. You do not seem to understand how notability works, and those pages may help. Also, look at at the experienced editors voting delete on this page, for good reasons. Read their reasons as well. This page is a quite clear delete. If she had a number of good references it would be OK, but there are not enough to establish notability. That's my last comment on that.
198.58.161.137 (
talk)
07:17, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
- I believe the awards listed could not be much less notable than they already are. To wit: "2006 Dog Writers' Association of America Best Illustration Award".
198.58.161.137 (
talk)
09:50, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
- Delete as the awards are not significant awards (member shows, etc) and do not establish notability. Also the page appears to be a close paraphrase of the artist's website: http://heatherhorton.com/biography/ -- Theredproject ( talk) 01:53, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
- Delete non-notable awards. Page written like a CV, although that's not a deletion criteria. Nothing turns up in Gnews. One reference in article. Does nto meet WP:GNG. 198.58.161.137 ( talk) 09:48, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
- Delete as a CV. Agricola44 ( talk) 14:53, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
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