The result was delete all. Proto:: ► 11:06, 8 January 2007 (UTC) reply
delete together with its sub-articles these lists of potterisms translated into all foreign langauges. This fancruft really went blown way out of proportions here. Why don't they do this in appropriate fandom sites? Is there any potter-wiki around? `' mikka 03:45, 2 January 2007 (UTC) reply
I would first draw attention to comments made the last time this was debated [ [1]]. Having done that, i would draw attention to the irony that these lists represent one of the best collections of such information I have seen, and thus a unique contribution to the very wide field of general interest in the subject of Harry potter. Most of our content on Hp, while informative, is not unique. From the scholarly point of view this actually represents a resource as an example of how concepts in one book have been translated into different languages. So, as I say, an irony that people should seek to delete it as 'fancruft'. Well, yes, perhaps that is exactly how the work of university professors of literature ought to be described.
The other specific importance of (parts) of these pages was to the ongoing puzzle set by Rowling at the end of the most recent book, as to the identity of a character known solely as RAB. The cross referencing of characters names in different languages is one of the more important, and officially verifiable, ways of eliminating candidates (by having the wrong translated initials).
No one has proposed that its existence at the HP Wiki is a reason for deletion. Please provide a few links to what you believe to be copyright violation on my talkpage. John Reaves 07:51, 8 January 2007 (UTC) reply
Mikka is wrong. This is not fandom. It is real world information. CJ King is wrong. The point is to record the international reach of the world’s most popular literature series. YechielMan is wrong. The lists are needed as a resource for subsequent improvement Fbv65edel: The existence of information outside wikipedia is no reason to remove that information from wikipedia.. What is the point of “merge”? The question is “delete”. Yes or no. John Reaves, like Mikka is wrong in that the information is not ficticious, fantasy speculative creation. It is real world information. It is data that should be allowed to evolve from a draft into a good article. Muhaha is wrong. Most of the information does not belong in a dictionary. Kappa; Robert Ullmann; Sjakkalle: By “Transwiki” I assume you mean “do not delete”. Agreed, the information has worth, even if it looks like appendix data at the moment. DGG: Agree. It is easy to see future use of the information. I also note that the page is almost two years old. Lets not be hasty. You should assume that every contributor also agrees in the worth of the page. -- SmokeyJoe 00:13, 6 January 2007 (UTC) reply
The result was delete all. Proto:: ► 11:06, 8 January 2007 (UTC) reply
delete together with its sub-articles these lists of potterisms translated into all foreign langauges. This fancruft really went blown way out of proportions here. Why don't they do this in appropriate fandom sites? Is there any potter-wiki around? `' mikka 03:45, 2 January 2007 (UTC) reply
I would first draw attention to comments made the last time this was debated [ [1]]. Having done that, i would draw attention to the irony that these lists represent one of the best collections of such information I have seen, and thus a unique contribution to the very wide field of general interest in the subject of Harry potter. Most of our content on Hp, while informative, is not unique. From the scholarly point of view this actually represents a resource as an example of how concepts in one book have been translated into different languages. So, as I say, an irony that people should seek to delete it as 'fancruft'. Well, yes, perhaps that is exactly how the work of university professors of literature ought to be described.
The other specific importance of (parts) of these pages was to the ongoing puzzle set by Rowling at the end of the most recent book, as to the identity of a character known solely as RAB. The cross referencing of characters names in different languages is one of the more important, and officially verifiable, ways of eliminating candidates (by having the wrong translated initials).
No one has proposed that its existence at the HP Wiki is a reason for deletion. Please provide a few links to what you believe to be copyright violation on my talkpage. John Reaves 07:51, 8 January 2007 (UTC) reply
Mikka is wrong. This is not fandom. It is real world information. CJ King is wrong. The point is to record the international reach of the world’s most popular literature series. YechielMan is wrong. The lists are needed as a resource for subsequent improvement Fbv65edel: The existence of information outside wikipedia is no reason to remove that information from wikipedia.. What is the point of “merge”? The question is “delete”. Yes or no. John Reaves, like Mikka is wrong in that the information is not ficticious, fantasy speculative creation. It is real world information. It is data that should be allowed to evolve from a draft into a good article. Muhaha is wrong. Most of the information does not belong in a dictionary. Kappa; Robert Ullmann; Sjakkalle: By “Transwiki” I assume you mean “do not delete”. Agreed, the information has worth, even if it looks like appendix data at the moment. DGG: Agree. It is easy to see future use of the information. I also note that the page is almost two years old. Lets not be hasty. You should assume that every contributor also agrees in the worth of the page. -- SmokeyJoe 00:13, 6 January 2007 (UTC) reply