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The result was delete. MBisanz talk 01:14, 17 August 2016 (UTC)
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Although I appreciate and see the user's contributions, there's still nothing to suggest this position sets any independent notability for his own actual article. SwisterTwister talk 22:59, 9 August 2016 (UTC)
- Delete non-notable city offical. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 07:40, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
- I understand why it seems non-notable. When I went to create the article I thought he was still the Director of Urban Design for the City of Toronto working under Jennifer Keesmaat. In this role he would warrant an article, and this role in general, in Toronto at this time, is notable. Upon starting my research and bringing in citations I realized he has just left the position, only last month actually. There is someone new acting in his place while the city looks for a replacement. Beyond a change in his public LinkedIn profile, a job posting on the city website, and the new employee being listed on the Toronto Urban Design website there has not been press about this departure. I still feel that his connection to Keesmaat and his participation in many important city planning initiatives is notable but without being in the role I thought he was, I guess it makes sense to delete the article for now. -- RhyUrbanPlan ( talk) 16:16, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
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- A search for Harold yields coverage more for Jennifer Keesmaat, the former colleague. She seems to be a notable Toronto city planner, per GNG. However, I'd say Madi just falls short, at this time. Maybe userfy until such time as Madi nets more reliable sources? Delete. Shawn in Montreal ( talk) 16:02, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
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- "Director of urban design" isn't a role that would confer an automatic inclusion freebie on a person just for existing. (Even being the head of city planning is no guarantee of inclusion — Jennifer Keesmaat gets over on how sourceable she is, but a lot of her predecessors don't have articles because they didn't do the job in anything even approaching the "high media visibility" way that she does.) It could potentially get him into Wikipedia if the sourcing here were a lot more dependent on reliable source coverage in media and a lot less on primary sources, but it's not a role that entitles him to an exemption from having to pass WP:GNG on the sourcing. I'm willing to reconsider this if somebody can locate much more media coverage about him than has been shown here, but nothing written or sourced here now is enough. Delete. Bearcat ( talk) 17:56, 13 August 2016 (UTC)
- Delete. It's little more than a job description. Not notable. Bermicourt ( talk) 08:56, 14 August 2016 (UTC)
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The result was delete. MBisanz talk 01:14, 17 August 2016 (UTC)
- Harold Madi ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
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Although I appreciate and see the user's contributions, there's still nothing to suggest this position sets any independent notability for his own actual article. SwisterTwister talk 22:59, 9 August 2016 (UTC)
- Delete non-notable city offical. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 07:40, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
- I understand why it seems non-notable. When I went to create the article I thought he was still the Director of Urban Design for the City of Toronto working under Jennifer Keesmaat. In this role he would warrant an article, and this role in general, in Toronto at this time, is notable. Upon starting my research and bringing in citations I realized he has just left the position, only last month actually. There is someone new acting in his place while the city looks for a replacement. Beyond a change in his public LinkedIn profile, a job posting on the city website, and the new employee being listed on the Toronto Urban Design website there has not been press about this departure. I still feel that his connection to Keesmaat and his participation in many important city planning initiatives is notable but without being in the role I thought he was, I guess it makes sense to delete the article for now. -- RhyUrbanPlan ( talk) 16:16, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
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- A search for Harold yields coverage more for Jennifer Keesmaat, the former colleague. She seems to be a notable Toronto city planner, per GNG. However, I'd say Madi just falls short, at this time. Maybe userfy until such time as Madi nets more reliable sources? Delete. Shawn in Montreal ( talk) 16:02, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
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- "Director of urban design" isn't a role that would confer an automatic inclusion freebie on a person just for existing. (Even being the head of city planning is no guarantee of inclusion — Jennifer Keesmaat gets over on how sourceable she is, but a lot of her predecessors don't have articles because they didn't do the job in anything even approaching the "high media visibility" way that she does.) It could potentially get him into Wikipedia if the sourcing here were a lot more dependent on reliable source coverage in media and a lot less on primary sources, but it's not a role that entitles him to an exemption from having to pass WP:GNG on the sourcing. I'm willing to reconsider this if somebody can locate much more media coverage about him than has been shown here, but nothing written or sourced here now is enough. Delete. Bearcat ( talk) 17:56, 13 August 2016 (UTC)
- Delete. It's little more than a job description. Not notable. Bermicourt ( talk) 08:56, 14 August 2016 (UTC)
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