Harlette
[Hide this box] New to Articles for deletion (AfD)? Read these primers!
- Harlette ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log | edits since nomination)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
I'm unable to find any significant coverage of the subject, that would indicate that either WP:BIO WP:CORP or WP:CREATIVE are met. The sources cited in the article are either unreliable ( [1] [2]), contain only very brief mentions ( [3] [4]) or were written by the subject: [5]. My own searches have only turned up more of the same, e.g. [6] SmartSE ( talk) 17:05, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Businesspeople, Women, Fashion, United Kingdom, and Australia. Shellwood ( talk) 18:31, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Support Mentions of "Harlette de Falaise" are almost exclusively to Herleva, who was known by this name. Mentions in references cited in the Harlette article appear to be to a brand rather than a person. This is confirmed by a search at Companies House – Harlette is a limited company, not a person. [7] This article appears to be a work of promotional fiction. Robminchin ( talk) 20:32, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom and other comments. I started looking into this after the recent unsourced additions; I also found that the existing sources referred to the company rather than a person, and am unable to find anything about her from reliable sources.
- Naomi McGill appears to be the owner of various Harlette companies, and indeed old revisions such as this one list Naomi McGill as if it's an alternative name for the article's subject.
- I wondered if the page had been hijacked from being about the fashion brand itself but it appears it's always been like this. Ligaturama ( talk) 21:57, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete For the reasons mentioned above. I would also like to thank Robminchin for pointing out that this is promotional fiction, because I tried to look for sources (as well as looked at the sources added in the recent COI-editing spurt), and found no reliable sources other than the historical figure, which is not the subject. Harlette, in the modern sense, appears to be some sort of business pseudonym, as the Arab News source (citation 4) has no mention of a Harlette whatsoever, but it does mention a "Nayomi", which is a similar name to the Naomi McGill mentioned in the Sunday People sources, as well as the Parliament submissions that the COI editing keeps trying to add. Even then, the real person, Naomi McGill, appears to not have the credentials she claims. The COI editing claims about Harlette having a PhD in Space Telecommunications from Kings College London (which are attempted to be proved by the Parliament submissions) are also bunk, as the university doesn't appear to offer - or to have ever offered - any sort of degree with the name "Space Telecommunications." Therefore, this shouldn't be a BLP at all - this article, for all intents and purposes, is a hoax. There is no Harlette de Falaise, as the article purports.
Even if there was an attempt to remove the fabricated parts of this article, and make it just about the real person, Naomi McGill, there aren't any reliable secondary sources that prove notability as a BLP. There are only short promotional blurbs from various news outlets, such as the PR Newswire piece. Therefore, I support deleting this article.-- Panian513 21:17, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep but make the article about the company or brand, rather than the person. I think the references establish notability for the company or brand. Eastmain ( talk • contribs) 22:27, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. I attempted a cleanup of this article in September last year, it struck me as promotional/non-notable then but I erred on the side of leaving to improve. Thanks for the good work and nomination. Jdcooper ( talk) 22:15, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
Harlette
[Hide this box] New to Articles for deletion (AfD)? Read these primers!
- Harlette ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log | edits since nomination)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
I'm unable to find any significant coverage of the subject, that would indicate that either WP:BIO WP:CORP or WP:CREATIVE are met. The sources cited in the article are either unreliable ( [1] [2]), contain only very brief mentions ( [3] [4]) or were written by the subject: [5]. My own searches have only turned up more of the same, e.g. [6] SmartSE ( talk) 17:05, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Businesspeople, Women, Fashion, United Kingdom, and Australia. Shellwood ( talk) 18:31, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Support Mentions of "Harlette de Falaise" are almost exclusively to Herleva, who was known by this name. Mentions in references cited in the Harlette article appear to be to a brand rather than a person. This is confirmed by a search at Companies House – Harlette is a limited company, not a person. [7] This article appears to be a work of promotional fiction. Robminchin ( talk) 20:32, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom and other comments. I started looking into this after the recent unsourced additions; I also found that the existing sources referred to the company rather than a person, and am unable to find anything about her from reliable sources.
- Naomi McGill appears to be the owner of various Harlette companies, and indeed old revisions such as this one list Naomi McGill as if it's an alternative name for the article's subject.
- I wondered if the page had been hijacked from being about the fashion brand itself but it appears it's always been like this. Ligaturama ( talk) 21:57, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete For the reasons mentioned above. I would also like to thank Robminchin for pointing out that this is promotional fiction, because I tried to look for sources (as well as looked at the sources added in the recent COI-editing spurt), and found no reliable sources other than the historical figure, which is not the subject. Harlette, in the modern sense, appears to be some sort of business pseudonym, as the Arab News source (citation 4) has no mention of a Harlette whatsoever, but it does mention a "Nayomi", which is a similar name to the Naomi McGill mentioned in the Sunday People sources, as well as the Parliament submissions that the COI editing keeps trying to add. Even then, the real person, Naomi McGill, appears to not have the credentials she claims. The COI editing claims about Harlette having a PhD in Space Telecommunications from Kings College London (which are attempted to be proved by the Parliament submissions) are also bunk, as the university doesn't appear to offer - or to have ever offered - any sort of degree with the name "Space Telecommunications." Therefore, this shouldn't be a BLP at all - this article, for all intents and purposes, is a hoax. There is no Harlette de Falaise, as the article purports.
Even if there was an attempt to remove the fabricated parts of this article, and make it just about the real person, Naomi McGill, there aren't any reliable secondary sources that prove notability as a BLP. There are only short promotional blurbs from various news outlets, such as the PR Newswire piece. Therefore, I support deleting this article.-- Panian513 21:17, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep but make the article about the company or brand, rather than the person. I think the references establish notability for the company or brand. Eastmain ( talk • contribs) 22:27, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. I attempted a cleanup of this article in September last year, it struck me as promotional/non-notable then but I erred on the side of leaving to improve. Thanks for the good work and nomination. Jdcooper ( talk) 22:15, 9 July 2024 (UTC)