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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) 🌀 Locomotive207- talk 🌀 00:23, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
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This was prodded, redirected, restored immediately after, and put through two more AfDs after that, all within a few weeks in May 2009. That was well before people took a good look at GNIS's reliability issues, but at any rate the notion that GNIS constituted official recognition was always inconsistent with the authority GNIS actually claimed (which was over names, not place classification). In the end this is well-documented to be just another of the many subdivisions entered willy-nilly, and the coverage cited in the article is routine stuff. This shouldn't have been created, it shouldn't have been redirected, it shouldn't have been recreated, and it should never have been kept when considered for deletion twelve years ago. Mangoe ( talk) 18:24, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Sun8908 Talk 18:53, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Delaware-related deletion discussions. Sun8908 Talk 18:53, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
- Comment. A local newspaper refers to it (in two separate stories) as a neighbourhood. https://www.google.com/search?tbm=nws&q=%22Gwinhurst%2C+Delaware%22+-wikipedia There is also a Facebook group (started long before the start of this AfD) https://www.facebook.com/groups/159215002757/ named "Gwinhurst Neighborhood, Wilmington Delaware" Participants in a previous AfD suggested merging into Brandywine Hundred, but I don't know how good an idea that is. Eastmain ( talk • contribs) 22:43, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
- Delete/redirect A real neighborhood but I can't find notability for the generic subdivision with a homeowners association. Newspapers.com results are mainly old advertisements like [1] [2] [3] and non-secondary RS or passing mentions like [4] [5]. A merge of several of these neighborhoods to Brandywine Hundred may be doable. Reywas92 Talk 00:10, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
- The articles on the Delaware hundreds are not appropriate merger targets for anything; if anything, the individual articles probably ought to go away. They are obsolete subdivisions which only continue to appear on deeds and titles because it would take work to get rid of recording them. Mangoe ( talk) 00:18, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
- Weak Keep. After searching through 18 pages of Newspapers.com results, I think I've found enough SIGCOV IMO. What I've found includes this, this, this, this, this, this, and this (none of which are currently in the article). I also found two pieces of coverage for their basketball team in the "Brandywine Hundred Basketball League": this and this. BeanieFan11 ( talk) 19:21, 23 September 2021 (UTC)
- Weak Keep There does appear to be some sourcing per BeanieFan11, but none of it is particularly impressive. However I do think there is enough to meet GNG though not by much. The problem with these developments is that there is no logical merge target, unlike neighboring New Jersey or Pennsylvania. ~ EDDY ( talk/ contribs)~ 22:58, 23 September 2021 (UTC)
- Weak Keep per BeanieFan11. 4meter4 ( talk) 16:27, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
- Keep 2009-2021 versions very different, the latter sufficiently referenced, particularly with academic study. (The nom seems heavy on the virtues/sins of GNIS which is not of import in determining this specific AfD and the case-by-case basis as mentioned in GEOLAND.) Djflem ( talk) 16:36, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) 🌀 Locomotive207- talk 🌀 00:23, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
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- Gwinhurst, Delaware ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
This was prodded, redirected, restored immediately after, and put through two more AfDs after that, all within a few weeks in May 2009. That was well before people took a good look at GNIS's reliability issues, but at any rate the notion that GNIS constituted official recognition was always inconsistent with the authority GNIS actually claimed (which was over names, not place classification). In the end this is well-documented to be just another of the many subdivisions entered willy-nilly, and the coverage cited in the article is routine stuff. This shouldn't have been created, it shouldn't have been redirected, it shouldn't have been recreated, and it should never have been kept when considered for deletion twelve years ago. Mangoe ( talk) 18:24, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Sun8908 Talk 18:53, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Delaware-related deletion discussions. Sun8908 Talk 18:53, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
- Comment. A local newspaper refers to it (in two separate stories) as a neighbourhood. https://www.google.com/search?tbm=nws&q=%22Gwinhurst%2C+Delaware%22+-wikipedia There is also a Facebook group (started long before the start of this AfD) https://www.facebook.com/groups/159215002757/ named "Gwinhurst Neighborhood, Wilmington Delaware" Participants in a previous AfD suggested merging into Brandywine Hundred, but I don't know how good an idea that is. Eastmain ( talk • contribs) 22:43, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
- Delete/redirect A real neighborhood but I can't find notability for the generic subdivision with a homeowners association. Newspapers.com results are mainly old advertisements like [1] [2] [3] and non-secondary RS or passing mentions like [4] [5]. A merge of several of these neighborhoods to Brandywine Hundred may be doable. Reywas92 Talk 00:10, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
- The articles on the Delaware hundreds are not appropriate merger targets for anything; if anything, the individual articles probably ought to go away. They are obsolete subdivisions which only continue to appear on deeds and titles because it would take work to get rid of recording them. Mangoe ( talk) 00:18, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
- Weak Keep. After searching through 18 pages of Newspapers.com results, I think I've found enough SIGCOV IMO. What I've found includes this, this, this, this, this, this, and this (none of which are currently in the article). I also found two pieces of coverage for their basketball team in the "Brandywine Hundred Basketball League": this and this. BeanieFan11 ( talk) 19:21, 23 September 2021 (UTC)
- Weak Keep There does appear to be some sourcing per BeanieFan11, but none of it is particularly impressive. However I do think there is enough to meet GNG though not by much. The problem with these developments is that there is no logical merge target, unlike neighboring New Jersey or Pennsylvania. ~ EDDY ( talk/ contribs)~ 22:58, 23 September 2021 (UTC)
- Weak Keep per BeanieFan11. 4meter4 ( talk) 16:27, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
- Keep 2009-2021 versions very different, the latter sufficiently referenced, particularly with academic study. (The nom seems heavy on the virtues/sins of GNIS which is not of import in determining this specific AfD and the case-by-case basis as mentioned in GEOLAND.) Djflem ( talk) 16:36, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.