The result was kept, but moved to
Grand Canyon Trophy Game, shifting focus to the regular series of games played, rather than the question of whether a notable rivalry exists.
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This doesn't appear to meet the WP:NRIVALRY due to a lack of in depth, secondary coverage with which to meet the WP:GNG. The article was deleted under a different name in 2014 and recreated [ [1]], but as it stands the current article seemingly fails in the same areas the previous one did. Let'srun ( talk) 17:30, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
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22:56, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
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Source assessment table: prepared by
User:Left guide
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Source | Independent? | Reliable? | Significant coverage? | Count source toward GNG? |
---|---|---|---|---|
https://www.thespectrum.com/story/sports/college/southern-utah/2015/11/18/suu-football-much-stake-years-grand-canyon-rivalry/75974816/ | (presumably) | The title is misleading, as the first sentence makes a routine announcement of the upcoming game, and then diverts to discussing the Southern Utah coach and other aspects of the team's season the rest of the way. Not focused on the matchup/rivalry and says almost nothing meaningful about Northern Arizona aside from a single passing mention from the SUU coach: The guys have higher aspirations now. It’s about beating NAU and all that comes with it. |
✘ No | |
https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/college/southern-utah/2015/11/19/suu-football-demario-warren-faces-former-teammate-grand-canyon-rivalry/76085934/ | (presumably) | ~ Doesn't really discuss the two involved teams as a matchup or rivalry, mostly about the two individual coaches from each team who happen to have a prior personal connection and their anecdotes about it. Not particularly focused on the matchup/rivalry but not entirely off-topic either. | ~ Partial | |
https://bigskyconf.com/news/2015/11/14/FB_1114150039.aspx | It's the conference's website, so a primary source. | ? Didn’t bother to read since it won't count for notability anyways. | ✘ No | |
https://web.archive.org/web/20150907212820/http://www.nauathletics.com/sports/fball/2012-13/releases/20121106d133ob | It’s the website of one of the involved teams, so a primary source. | ? Didn’t bother to read since it won’t count for notability anyways. | ✘ No | |
https://suutbirds.com/news/2013/11/21/209319368.aspx | It’s the website of the other involved team, so a primary source. | ? Didn’t bother to read since it won’t count for notability anyways. | ✘ No | |
https://fbschedules.com/nau-southern-utah-schedule-12-game-football-series-2028-to-2039/ | ? The site says they’re a partner of USA Today, so I initially believed they’re reliable although another editor has expressed uncertainty about its reliability. | ~ Most of this is
WP:CRYSTAL but there are two paragraphs that offer overview-level encyclopedic coverage of the matchup as an established cohesive topic: Northern Arizona and Southern Utah, both current members of the Big Sky Conference, compete annually in a matchup dubbed the Grand Canyon Rivalry. However the Thunderbirds are leaving the Big Sky for the Western Athletic Conference (WAC) beginning with the 2022 season. |
? Unknown | |
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The result was kept, but moved to
Grand Canyon Trophy Game, shifting focus to the regular series of games played, rather than the question of whether a notable rivalry exists.
BD2412
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19:41, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
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This doesn't appear to meet the WP:NRIVALRY due to a lack of in depth, secondary coverage with which to meet the WP:GNG. The article was deleted under a different name in 2014 and recreated [ [1]], but as it stands the current article seemingly fails in the same areas the previous one did. Let'srun ( talk) 17:30, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,
Daniel (
talk)
22:56, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,
Star
Mississippi
23:50, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Final relist.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,
Daniel (
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12:29, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
Source assessment table: prepared by
User:Left guide
| ||||
Source | Independent? | Reliable? | Significant coverage? | Count source toward GNG? |
---|---|---|---|---|
https://www.thespectrum.com/story/sports/college/southern-utah/2015/11/18/suu-football-much-stake-years-grand-canyon-rivalry/75974816/ | (presumably) | The title is misleading, as the first sentence makes a routine announcement of the upcoming game, and then diverts to discussing the Southern Utah coach and other aspects of the team's season the rest of the way. Not focused on the matchup/rivalry and says almost nothing meaningful about Northern Arizona aside from a single passing mention from the SUU coach: The guys have higher aspirations now. It’s about beating NAU and all that comes with it. |
✘ No | |
https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/college/southern-utah/2015/11/19/suu-football-demario-warren-faces-former-teammate-grand-canyon-rivalry/76085934/ | (presumably) | ~ Doesn't really discuss the two involved teams as a matchup or rivalry, mostly about the two individual coaches from each team who happen to have a prior personal connection and their anecdotes about it. Not particularly focused on the matchup/rivalry but not entirely off-topic either. | ~ Partial | |
https://bigskyconf.com/news/2015/11/14/FB_1114150039.aspx | It's the conference's website, so a primary source. | ? Didn’t bother to read since it won't count for notability anyways. | ✘ No | |
https://web.archive.org/web/20150907212820/http://www.nauathletics.com/sports/fball/2012-13/releases/20121106d133ob | It’s the website of one of the involved teams, so a primary source. | ? Didn’t bother to read since it won’t count for notability anyways. | ✘ No | |
https://suutbirds.com/news/2013/11/21/209319368.aspx | It’s the website of the other involved team, so a primary source. | ? Didn’t bother to read since it won’t count for notability anyways. | ✘ No | |
https://fbschedules.com/nau-southern-utah-schedule-12-game-football-series-2028-to-2039/ | ? The site says they’re a partner of USA Today, so I initially believed they’re reliable although another editor has expressed uncertainty about its reliability. | ~ Most of this is
WP:CRYSTAL but there are two paragraphs that offer overview-level encyclopedic coverage of the matchup as an established cohesive topic: Northern Arizona and Southern Utah, both current members of the Big Sky Conference, compete annually in a matchup dubbed the Grand Canyon Rivalry. However the Thunderbirds are leaving the Big Sky for the Western Athletic Conference (WAC) beginning with the 2022 season. |
? Unknown | |
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{ source assess table}}. |