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The result was merge to Evergrey discography. Sandstein 16:40, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
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Fails WP:NALBUM / WP:GNG. The coverage that I found of this album appears to mostly consist of passing mentions or not in-depth about the album itself, thus not satisfying the "multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent from the musician or ensemble who created it." of criterion #1. There has been no evidence that it charted to pass #2 either, with sverigetopplistan returning no results. TheSandDoctor Talk 04:26, 12 October 2020 (UTC); expanded 17:35, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. TheSandDoctor Talk 04:26, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. TheSandDoctor Talk 04:26, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sweden-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 06:39, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
Keep: Notable album by a notable band. Heiko Gerber ( talk) 17:01, 12 October 2020 (UTC)- @ Heiko Gerber: Rationale expanded. The album itself appears to lack substantial enough coverage to warrant its own article per the notability criteria. -- TheSandDoctor Talk 17:36, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
- Merge all albums to
Evergrey discography. The track listings can be condensed into collapsed templates there.
BD2412
T
19:15, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
- I have no objections to this. -- TheSandDoctor Talk 19:52, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
- Keep: Per
Heiko Gerber. I found some reliable sources which talk about the album:
[1],
[2],
[3],
[4],
[5] and
[6]. With these, the album is good enough to pass
WP:NALBUM.
ASTIG😎 (
ICE T •
ICE CUBE)
16:00, 15 October 2020 (UTC)
- metalinjection since its addition has always been tagged as WP:USERG at Wikipedia:WikiProject Albums/Sources, which brings it into serious issues with reliability. The prose in the review itself reads as being more a fan gushing about the new album with a blog like feel than a professional review that would be expected of WP:RS.
- bloody-disgusting is an interesting source that calls it "a joy to listen to" and its production "gorgeous", but that is about it. It lacks significant in-depth coverage.
- angrymetalguy appears to be a blog based on its navigation menu at the top of the page. WP:BLOGS covers this and therefore generally eliminates this type of source.
- blabbermouth per WP:MUSICRS, this is a source to be careful about using as they exaggerate things. That really doesn't bode well for a review. If that is a non-issue, then this is the first source of any sort of weight.
- metal-archives not RS per WP:ALBUMAVOID and Wikipedia:WikiProject Metal#External links
- hardrockhaven is not that in-depth of a review. Based on this "review", I am especially concerned about their reliability. They do truly come across as WP:SPS.
- Overall, this album appears to run into problems with WP:NOTINHERETED, WP:NRV, and a general lack of non-trivial coverage in multiple reliable publications. -- TheSandDoctor Talk 05:02, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ST47 ( talk) 23:20, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ST47 ( talk) 23:20, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
- Merge per TheSandDoctor -- 17jiangz1 ( talk) 07:46, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
- Redirect to Evergrey. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 00:38, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
- Merge to Evergrey discography and condense track listings per BD2412's proposal. The sources provided do not make up "substantial coverage in reliable sources" in my eyes. Pax:Vobiscum ( talk) 10:10, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
- Merge to Evergrey discography and condense track listings per BD2412's proposal. // Timothy :: talk 12:41, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
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The result was merge to Evergrey discography. Sandstein 16:40, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
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Fails WP:NALBUM / WP:GNG. The coverage that I found of this album appears to mostly consist of passing mentions or not in-depth about the album itself, thus not satisfying the "multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent from the musician or ensemble who created it." of criterion #1. There has been no evidence that it charted to pass #2 either, with sverigetopplistan returning no results. TheSandDoctor Talk 04:26, 12 October 2020 (UTC); expanded 17:35, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. TheSandDoctor Talk 04:26, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. TheSandDoctor Talk 04:26, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sweden-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 06:39, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
Keep: Notable album by a notable band. Heiko Gerber ( talk) 17:01, 12 October 2020 (UTC)- @ Heiko Gerber: Rationale expanded. The album itself appears to lack substantial enough coverage to warrant its own article per the notability criteria. -- TheSandDoctor Talk 17:36, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
- Merge all albums to
Evergrey discography. The track listings can be condensed into collapsed templates there.
BD2412
T
19:15, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
- I have no objections to this. -- TheSandDoctor Talk 19:52, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
- Keep: Per
Heiko Gerber. I found some reliable sources which talk about the album:
[1],
[2],
[3],
[4],
[5] and
[6]. With these, the album is good enough to pass
WP:NALBUM.
ASTIG😎 (
ICE T •
ICE CUBE)
16:00, 15 October 2020 (UTC)
- metalinjection since its addition has always been tagged as WP:USERG at Wikipedia:WikiProject Albums/Sources, which brings it into serious issues with reliability. The prose in the review itself reads as being more a fan gushing about the new album with a blog like feel than a professional review that would be expected of WP:RS.
- bloody-disgusting is an interesting source that calls it "a joy to listen to" and its production "gorgeous", but that is about it. It lacks significant in-depth coverage.
- angrymetalguy appears to be a blog based on its navigation menu at the top of the page. WP:BLOGS covers this and therefore generally eliminates this type of source.
- blabbermouth per WP:MUSICRS, this is a source to be careful about using as they exaggerate things. That really doesn't bode well for a review. If that is a non-issue, then this is the first source of any sort of weight.
- metal-archives not RS per WP:ALBUMAVOID and Wikipedia:WikiProject Metal#External links
- hardrockhaven is not that in-depth of a review. Based on this "review", I am especially concerned about their reliability. They do truly come across as WP:SPS.
- Overall, this album appears to run into problems with WP:NOTINHERETED, WP:NRV, and a general lack of non-trivial coverage in multiple reliable publications. -- TheSandDoctor Talk 05:02, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ST47 ( talk) 23:20, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ST47 ( talk) 23:20, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
- Merge per TheSandDoctor -- 17jiangz1 ( talk) 07:46, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
- Redirect to Evergrey. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 00:38, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
- Merge to Evergrey discography and condense track listings per BD2412's proposal. The sources provided do not make up "substantial coverage in reliable sources" in my eyes. Pax:Vobiscum ( talk) 10:10, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
- Merge to Evergrey discography and condense track listings per BD2412's proposal. // Timothy :: talk 12:41, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.