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The result was keep. Sandstein 07:29, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
German youth language
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WP:SYNTH and likely an A10 duplication of something - This is a translation of de:Jugendsprache, a generic page on "youth language", enhanced by a horde of IP editors, with the word "German" thrown in a lot. power~enwiki ( π, ν) 04:43, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Language-related deletion discussions. Icewhiz ( talk) 06:47, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
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- Keep, per the Google scholar search Benjamin has provided, this subject appears to get plenty of coverage in academic sources. signed, Rosguill talk 07:40, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
- Keep I agree this appears generic at first glance, but beyond the lede is actually quite specific to German youth slang. Well okay, about 3/4 of "Characteristics" is waffle and could go. It doesn't help that like with everything ported from dewiki, it's weak on inline cites, but the sources are present. - If already covered elsewhere, I'm not seeing that? -- Elmidae ( talk · contribs)
- Comment and objections. The problem is that the sources are about "youth language" and are written in German, they're not about "German youth language" as far as I can tell. IT IS
WP:SYNTH to assume that the German-language sources are talking about German language teens simply because they are in German. I know there isn't a rule requiring English sources - but unless one is found, I will continue to believe this is a mix of "unsourced slang", and scholarly papers that aren't intended to be specifically about German but simply get the word "German" thrown in a bunch during bad translations to English. It is as if I translated
Youth culture into French and called the article "American youth culture", claiming that "in English speaking countries,
there are many distinct and constantly changing youth subcultures
". IT IS WP:SYNTH. power~enwiki ( π, ν) 16:57, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
- Based on the article text: all the stuff in "Features", which is the meat of the article, is specific to German. Based on the sources: refs 2-6 are also German-specific - clear from short title for all but #3, and that is given in more detail under "Sources" as a chapter of "Die deutsche Sprache zur Jahrtausendwende". The only ref likely to be generic is #1. Really, this looks topical enough. -- Elmidae ( talk · contribs) 18:33, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
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The result was keep. Sandstein 07:29, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
German youth language
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WP:SYNTH and likely an A10 duplication of something - This is a translation of de:Jugendsprache, a generic page on "youth language", enhanced by a horde of IP editors, with the word "German" thrown in a lot. power~enwiki ( π, ν) 04:43, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Language-related deletion discussions. Icewhiz ( talk) 06:47, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Germany-related deletion discussions. Icewhiz ( talk) 06:47, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
- Keep, per the Google scholar search Benjamin has provided, this subject appears to get plenty of coverage in academic sources. signed, Rosguill talk 07:40, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
- Keep I agree this appears generic at first glance, but beyond the lede is actually quite specific to German youth slang. Well okay, about 3/4 of "Characteristics" is waffle and could go. It doesn't help that like with everything ported from dewiki, it's weak on inline cites, but the sources are present. - If already covered elsewhere, I'm not seeing that? -- Elmidae ( talk · contribs)
- Comment and objections. The problem is that the sources are about "youth language" and are written in German, they're not about "German youth language" as far as I can tell. IT IS
WP:SYNTH to assume that the German-language sources are talking about German language teens simply because they are in German. I know there isn't a rule requiring English sources - but unless one is found, I will continue to believe this is a mix of "unsourced slang", and scholarly papers that aren't intended to be specifically about German but simply get the word "German" thrown in a bunch during bad translations to English. It is as if I translated
Youth culture into French and called the article "American youth culture", claiming that "in English speaking countries,
there are many distinct and constantly changing youth subcultures
". IT IS WP:SYNTH. power~enwiki ( π, ν) 16:57, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
- Based on the article text: all the stuff in "Features", which is the meat of the article, is specific to German. Based on the sources: refs 2-6 are also German-specific - clear from short title for all but #3, and that is given in more detail under "Sources" as a chapter of "Die deutsche Sprache zur Jahrtausendwende". The only ref likely to be generic is #1. Really, this looks topical enough. -- Elmidae ( talk · contribs) 18:33, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
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