The result was delete. Jamie ☆ S93 18:36, 30 May 2009 (UTC) reply
Despite thorough attempts by several editors and professional scientists in this field, no reliable sources could be found confirming the stated controversy exists or existed (see discussion page for details NIMSoffice ( talk) 07:12, 23 May 2009 (UTC) reply
In this controversy, our side has presented solid evidence that the discovery of the new crystal strucure was made by us, and the other side (to which NIMSOffice is directly related, being their long-time collaborator) plagiarized our work. The side supported by NIMSOffice failed to present any contrary evidence, and now NIMSOffice insists on deletion. I suggest to keep the page, which has involved so much independent effort and now has our documentary evidence. Instead, I suggest to delete NIMSOffice's account - this person misuses anonymity. BTW, I and my colleagues found the identity of NIMSOffice and we can prove his long-time connections to Dubrovinskaia (the other side in the dispute) and rather dark role that NIMSOffice played in publishing their work (NIMSOffice is an editor of the journal where their paper appeared, in shortest time and in spite of referees' rejection!).
Generally pages like that are useful in that they bring awareness of the complexity of the discovery process, and may help to establish the actual facts on important scientific discoveries. We need such pages. Artem R. Oganov 16:41, 23 May 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aoganov ( talk • contribs)
Oganov and colleagues made at least 8 presentations of their findings at conferences since early 2007, including the high-profile IUCr meeting in August 2008, where they announced the discovery of a new phase of boron and its unique crystal structure [1]. These results were later published as a full article in Nature [2]
The IUCr conference was attended by Dubrovinsky and his colleagues (see the abstract of their talk at the same meeting as a proof http://journals.iucr.org/a/issues/2008/a1/00/a38473/a38473.pdf). Later, Dubrovinsky and colleagues published papers on boron, which did not mention that they are familiar with results of Oganov et al. Dubrovinsky et al. called this phase “new” (in spite of the earlier work by Oganov et al.) [3].
See also presentation of Zarechnaya and Dubrovinsky called “New HPHT phase of boron” http://www.psi-k.org/newsletters/News_90/newsletter_90.pdf
Also see Editorial Preface ( http://www.iop.org/EJ/abstract/1468-6996/9/4/040301), stating that Zarechnaya-Dubrovinskaia work reported on novel phase of boron. This is at the heart of present controversy. Aoganov ( talk) 01:29, 25 May 2009 (UTC) reply
The result was delete. Jamie ☆ S93 18:36, 30 May 2009 (UTC) reply
Despite thorough attempts by several editors and professional scientists in this field, no reliable sources could be found confirming the stated controversy exists or existed (see discussion page for details NIMSoffice ( talk) 07:12, 23 May 2009 (UTC) reply
In this controversy, our side has presented solid evidence that the discovery of the new crystal strucure was made by us, and the other side (to which NIMSOffice is directly related, being their long-time collaborator) plagiarized our work. The side supported by NIMSOffice failed to present any contrary evidence, and now NIMSOffice insists on deletion. I suggest to keep the page, which has involved so much independent effort and now has our documentary evidence. Instead, I suggest to delete NIMSOffice's account - this person misuses anonymity. BTW, I and my colleagues found the identity of NIMSOffice and we can prove his long-time connections to Dubrovinskaia (the other side in the dispute) and rather dark role that NIMSOffice played in publishing their work (NIMSOffice is an editor of the journal where their paper appeared, in shortest time and in spite of referees' rejection!).
Generally pages like that are useful in that they bring awareness of the complexity of the discovery process, and may help to establish the actual facts on important scientific discoveries. We need such pages. Artem R. Oganov 16:41, 23 May 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aoganov ( talk • contribs)
Oganov and colleagues made at least 8 presentations of their findings at conferences since early 2007, including the high-profile IUCr meeting in August 2008, where they announced the discovery of a new phase of boron and its unique crystal structure [1]. These results were later published as a full article in Nature [2]
The IUCr conference was attended by Dubrovinsky and his colleagues (see the abstract of their talk at the same meeting as a proof http://journals.iucr.org/a/issues/2008/a1/00/a38473/a38473.pdf). Later, Dubrovinsky and colleagues published papers on boron, which did not mention that they are familiar with results of Oganov et al. Dubrovinsky et al. called this phase “new” (in spite of the earlier work by Oganov et al.) [3].
See also presentation of Zarechnaya and Dubrovinsky called “New HPHT phase of boron” http://www.psi-k.org/newsletters/News_90/newsletter_90.pdf
Also see Editorial Preface ( http://www.iop.org/EJ/abstract/1468-6996/9/4/040301), stating that Zarechnaya-Dubrovinskaia work reported on novel phase of boron. This is at the heart of present controversy. Aoganov ( talk) 01:29, 25 May 2009 (UTC) reply