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The result was delete. While on a pure nose count this would be around "no consensus" territory, one "keep" argument is based entirely upon the now-removed "appearances in professional leagues" criterion, and one upon stating sources exist without specifying where those might be found. Given those factors, the outcome tilts to "delete". Seraphimblade Talk to me 06:40, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
Gam Han-sol
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Fails to meet GNG/SPORTSPEOPLE as Gam has not met any individual notability. Completely unreferenced and hasn't won championships/any notable titles. Wikipedia isn't a database for non-notable athletes. Mentioned in passing at most within Korean sources with the rest of Bucheon FC, and zero results for English google news. InvadingInvader ( userpage, talk) 19:58, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
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- Delete - no evidence of notability. 130 appearances (and counting) in Korean football, so possibly something out there. If sources are found please ping me.
Giant
Snowman
20:39, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
- @ GiantSnowman: The article on Korean Wikipedia seems to have some sources. Mucube ( talk) 22:44, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
- Keep - I did find three sources for the article in Korean:
this article,
this other article, and
the half-broken Google-cached version of another article seem to have a lot of information on Gam Han-sol.
Mucube (
talk)
23:01, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
- The first site looks to be a personal blog; the second is not significant (brief transfer news); the third is probably OK. Overall not enough to show notability. Giant Snowman 10:20, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:35, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete I'm not seeing much in Korean sources, lots of hits for a female golfer for some reaosn. Oaktree b ( talk) 23:40, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
- Keep - Per Mucube. In addition to his sources, I found other Korean sources as well. Player with ongoing career who has made over 100 appearances in the fully professional Korean second tier. Thanks,
Das osmnezz (
talk)
19:32, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
- @ Das osmnezz: Could you list out the sources you found so we can take a look at them? Mucube ( talk) 16:51, 30 November 2022 (UTC)
- Keep per WP:FPL, he has made many appearances in the FPL. Meets WP:BIO -- Assyrtiko ( talk) 12:06, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting. Those advocating Keep will have to provide additional reliable sources as only one of those offered is considered to be acceptable by Wikipedia standards. Again, Wikipedia no longer confers notabiity to athetes based on the number of appearances they've made.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 22:30, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
- Comment - Sportsworldi.com has an article on Gam that reads a bit like a press release from his club, but there is a byline with a reporter named. However, the footballist.co.kr article mentioned above is the same word-for-word which I think proves that it is just a club press release. I'm not seeing anything else that looks like significant coverage from a reliable source. Jogurney ( talk) 06:56, 28 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete - per above, article fails WP:GNG. Jogurney ( talk) 18:18, 30 November 2022 (UTC)
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The result was delete. While on a pure nose count this would be around "no consensus" territory, one "keep" argument is based entirely upon the now-removed "appearances in professional leagues" criterion, and one upon stating sources exist without specifying where those might be found. Given those factors, the outcome tilts to "delete". Seraphimblade Talk to me 06:40, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
Gam Han-sol
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Fails to meet GNG/SPORTSPEOPLE as Gam has not met any individual notability. Completely unreferenced and hasn't won championships/any notable titles. Wikipedia isn't a database for non-notable athletes. Mentioned in passing at most within Korean sources with the rest of Bucheon FC, and zero results for English google news. InvadingInvader ( userpage, talk) 19:58, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. InvadingInvader ( userpage, talk) 19:58, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Football and South Korea. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 20:00, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 20:18, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete - no evidence of notability. 130 appearances (and counting) in Korean football, so possibly something out there. If sources are found please ping me.
Giant
Snowman
20:39, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
- @ GiantSnowman: The article on Korean Wikipedia seems to have some sources. Mucube ( talk) 22:44, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
- Keep - I did find three sources for the article in Korean:
this article,
this other article, and
the half-broken Google-cached version of another article seem to have a lot of information on Gam Han-sol.
Mucube (
talk)
23:01, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
- The first site looks to be a personal blog; the second is not significant (brief transfer news); the third is probably OK. Overall not enough to show notability. Giant Snowman 10:20, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:35, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete I'm not seeing much in Korean sources, lots of hits for a female golfer for some reaosn. Oaktree b ( talk) 23:40, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
- Keep - Per Mucube. In addition to his sources, I found other Korean sources as well. Player with ongoing career who has made over 100 appearances in the fully professional Korean second tier. Thanks,
Das osmnezz (
talk)
19:32, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
- @ Das osmnezz: Could you list out the sources you found so we can take a look at them? Mucube ( talk) 16:51, 30 November 2022 (UTC)
- Keep per WP:FPL, he has made many appearances in the FPL. Meets WP:BIO -- Assyrtiko ( talk) 12:06, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting. Those advocating Keep will have to provide additional reliable sources as only one of those offered is considered to be acceptable by Wikipedia standards. Again, Wikipedia no longer confers notabiity to athetes based on the number of appearances they've made.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 22:30, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
- Comment - Sportsworldi.com has an article on Gam that reads a bit like a press release from his club, but there is a byline with a reporter named. However, the footballist.co.kr article mentioned above is the same word-for-word which I think proves that it is just a club press release. I'm not seeing anything else that looks like significant coverage from a reliable source. Jogurney ( talk) 06:56, 28 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete - per above, article fails WP:GNG. Jogurney ( talk) 18:18, 30 November 2022 (UTC)
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