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The result was WP:SNOW keep. As no one has expressed any desire for deletion except the nominator, it is safe to close this half a day early per WP:SNOW. Leaving it up would not change the consensus. ( non-admin closure) Anarchyte ( work | talk) 01:19, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
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The league Augsburger plays in is not one that playing in it grants notability. The sources are not enough to pass the GNG. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 20:33, 26 February 2017 (UTC)
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Speedy keep I've never edited or considered a hockey article in my time here yet it took me about two seconds to confirm that per WP:NHOCKEY "Played one or more games in an existing or defunct top professional league" is the first criterion and that the National League A (NLA) in which he plays "is a professional ice hockey league in Switzerland. It is the top tier of the Swiss hockey league system". Nom should be withdrawn. --- PageantUpdater ( talk) 21:54, 26 February 2017 (UTC)- Keep per criterion 3 of NHOCKEY. --- PageantUpdater ( talk) 17:52, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
- Speedy keep - yes, NHOCKEY seems well satisfied. Smmurphy( Talk) 22:20, 26 February 2017 (UTC)
- Keep, meets criterion 3 of WP:NHOCKEY - has played over 200 matches in National League A per the hockeyDB.com reference in the article. Hack ( talk) 01:08, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
- Keep: More than a two second glance of NHOCKEY would have revealed the very first sentence of the criteria. That sentence is "For lists of the leagues considered to satisfy each of the criteria below, please see the ice hockey league assessment maintained by the Ice Hockey WikiProject. All other leagues do not meet the specified criteria." Criterion #1 does not, and never has, mean that anyone who's skated so much as a minute in a single game for the premier league in every nation is notable, or people'd be writing articles for beer leaguers in Bhutan and Mexico. Hack is right, however, that the subject meets criterion #3.
Ravenswing 17:47, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
- Comment hmmm it needs to be better worded then because on the face of it that's exactly what it implies to someone without a background in the material.---
PageantUpdater (
talk) 17:52, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
- How better to word it than, "For lists of the leagues considered to satisfy each of the criteria below, please see the ice hockey league assessment maintained by the Ice Hockey WikiProject." And those lists are linked in that opening sentence, what am I missing?
18abruce (
talk) 21:49, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
- Oh dear, WP:MASTODONS. Didn't see that top line. My apologies. --- PageantUpdater ( talk) 21:59, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
- How better to word it than, "For lists of the leagues considered to satisfy each of the criteria below, please see the ice hockey league assessment maintained by the Ice Hockey WikiProject." And those lists are linked in that opening sentence, what am I missing?
18abruce (
talk) 21:49, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
- Comment hmmm it needs to be better worded then because on the face of it that's exactly what it implies to someone without a background in the material.---
PageantUpdater (
talk) 17:52, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
- Keep per all above. Meets WP:NHOCKEY Criteria #3 with 200+ games played in Switzerland's National League A. Ejgreen77 ( talk) 23:27, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
- Keep as noted above, meets criteria #3. Lepricavark ( talk) 20:46, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
- Keep - meets WP:NHOCKEY #3. Rlendog ( talk) 20:18, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
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The result was WP:SNOW keep. As no one has expressed any desire for deletion except the nominator, it is safe to close this half a day early per WP:SNOW. Leaving it up would not change the consensus. ( non-admin closure) Anarchyte ( work | talk) 01:19, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
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The league Augsburger plays in is not one that playing in it grants notability. The sources are not enough to pass the GNG. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 20:33, 26 February 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal ( talk) 20:35, 26 February 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ice hockey-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal ( talk) 20:35, 26 February 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Switzerland-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal ( talk) 20:35, 26 February 2017 (UTC)
Speedy keep I've never edited or considered a hockey article in my time here yet it took me about two seconds to confirm that per WP:NHOCKEY "Played one or more games in an existing or defunct top professional league" is the first criterion and that the National League A (NLA) in which he plays "is a professional ice hockey league in Switzerland. It is the top tier of the Swiss hockey league system". Nom should be withdrawn. --- PageantUpdater ( talk) 21:54, 26 February 2017 (UTC)- Keep per criterion 3 of NHOCKEY. --- PageantUpdater ( talk) 17:52, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
- Speedy keep - yes, NHOCKEY seems well satisfied. Smmurphy( Talk) 22:20, 26 February 2017 (UTC)
- Keep, meets criterion 3 of WP:NHOCKEY - has played over 200 matches in National League A per the hockeyDB.com reference in the article. Hack ( talk) 01:08, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
- Keep: More than a two second glance of NHOCKEY would have revealed the very first sentence of the criteria. That sentence is "For lists of the leagues considered to satisfy each of the criteria below, please see the ice hockey league assessment maintained by the Ice Hockey WikiProject. All other leagues do not meet the specified criteria." Criterion #1 does not, and never has, mean that anyone who's skated so much as a minute in a single game for the premier league in every nation is notable, or people'd be writing articles for beer leaguers in Bhutan and Mexico. Hack is right, however, that the subject meets criterion #3.
Ravenswing 17:47, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
- Comment hmmm it needs to be better worded then because on the face of it that's exactly what it implies to someone without a background in the material.---
PageantUpdater (
talk) 17:52, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
- How better to word it than, "For lists of the leagues considered to satisfy each of the criteria below, please see the ice hockey league assessment maintained by the Ice Hockey WikiProject." And those lists are linked in that opening sentence, what am I missing?
18abruce (
talk) 21:49, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
- Oh dear, WP:MASTODONS. Didn't see that top line. My apologies. --- PageantUpdater ( talk) 21:59, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
- How better to word it than, "For lists of the leagues considered to satisfy each of the criteria below, please see the ice hockey league assessment maintained by the Ice Hockey WikiProject." And those lists are linked in that opening sentence, what am I missing?
18abruce (
talk) 21:49, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
- Comment hmmm it needs to be better worded then because on the face of it that's exactly what it implies to someone without a background in the material.---
PageantUpdater (
talk) 17:52, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
- Keep per all above. Meets WP:NHOCKEY Criteria #3 with 200+ games played in Switzerland's National League A. Ejgreen77 ( talk) 23:27, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
- Keep as noted above, meets criteria #3. Lepricavark ( talk) 20:46, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
- Keep - meets WP:NHOCKEY #3. Rlendog ( talk) 20:18, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
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