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The result was redirect to French Canadians. Sandstein 16:57, 6 November 2016 (UTC)
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This page is about "the Francophone population of Canada" which is already covered much more extensively (and verifiably) at French Canadians. Geography is covered extensively at Canada and New France among others. Language is covered at French language in Canada. Subsequently, this article page does not serve any purpose. trackratte ( talk) 15:03, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
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Delete Per nom, info ont he page can be found elsewhere in WP. Comatmebro User talk:Comatmebro 16:09, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
- Convert to dab page listing the above articles. This is too common a phrase to delete outright.-- Cúchullain t/ c 17:06, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
- Disambiguate or redirect. I agree with Cuchullain that this shouldn't be a red link, but have no opinion at the moment about the appropriate target(s). That should really be a matter for talk page discussion rather than AfD. 86.17.222.157 ( talk) 17:34, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
- Redirect to French Canadians. I don't see any other reasonable entries that could justify a dab page (maybe Quebec, but what else?). Clarityfiend ( talk) 01:10, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
- There's a separate standalone article about almost every individual province's or territory's francophone community (except the Maritimes, where they're all subsumed into
Acadian rather than having separate provincial identity communities, and Nunavut).
Bearcat (
talk)
01:45, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
- Off the top of my head, the term "French Canada" would be a reasonable search term for
French Canadians,
Quebec and other parts of
New France in what is now Canada (such as
Acadia), and
Francophone Canada, which is a redirect to
French language in Canada.--
Cúchullain
t/
c
02:50, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
- French Canada could possibly refer collectively to all the regions of Canada where francophones reside (although I don't recall it ever being used that way), but definitely not individual areas like Acadia.
Clarityfiend (
talk)
10:50, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
- It can and does refer to the parts of Canada that were French colonies, which includes Acadia (meaning, not just present-day Quebec). It's a similar construction to French Louisiana, Spanish California, Mexican Texas, etc.-- Cúchullain t/ c 13:11, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
- By what definition of "all the regions of Canada where francophones reside" is Acadia not one of those regions? Bearcat ( talk) 16:15, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
- French Canada could possibly refer collectively to all the regions of Canada where francophones reside (although I don't recall it ever being used that way), but definitely not individual areas like Acadia.
Clarityfiend (
talk)
10:50, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
- Off the top of my head, the term "French Canada" would be a reasonable search term for
French Canadians,
Quebec and other parts of
New France in what is now Canada (such as
Acadia), and
Francophone Canada, which is a redirect to
French language in Canada.--
Cúchullain
t/
c
02:50, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
- There's a separate standalone article about almost every individual province's or territory's francophone community (except the Maritimes, where they're all subsumed into
Acadian rather than having separate provincial identity communities, and Nunavut).
Bearcat (
talk)
01:45, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
- I agree that this isn't useful as a standalone article, as there's nothing it can really cover that isn't already covered in French Canadian and its various spinoff pages — but it is too common a phrase to simply be left redlinked, and indeed needs to get the reader somewhere relevant. Even though potential items do exist besides Quebec to make it a dab page (e.g. Franco-Ontarian, Acadians, Franco-Manitoban, French language in Canada, etc.), all of those are also linked in French Canadians already. The best solution, accordingly, is indeed a redirect to French Canadians — the only other alternative, really, would be to turn it into a full-on outline index of all remotely related pages, and that's probably excessive. Bearcat ( talk) 01:49, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
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- Redirect to French Canadians. Along with all of the excellent reasons put forth above, French Canada really is defined by the presence of French Canadians, both currently and historically, which is well covered under French Canadians. nerdgoonrant ( talk) 17:23, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
- Redirect to French Canadians, obviously. Shawn in Montreal ( talk) 19:49, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
- Redirect to French Canadians. Montanabw (talk) 08:36, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
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The result was redirect to French Canadians. Sandstein 16:57, 6 November 2016 (UTC)
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This page is about "the Francophone population of Canada" which is already covered much more extensively (and verifiably) at French Canadians. Geography is covered extensively at Canada and New France among others. Language is covered at French language in Canada. Subsequently, this article page does not serve any purpose. trackratte ( talk) 15:03, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
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Delete Per nom, info ont he page can be found elsewhere in WP. Comatmebro User talk:Comatmebro 16:09, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
- Convert to dab page listing the above articles. This is too common a phrase to delete outright.-- Cúchullain t/ c 17:06, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
- Disambiguate or redirect. I agree with Cuchullain that this shouldn't be a red link, but have no opinion at the moment about the appropriate target(s). That should really be a matter for talk page discussion rather than AfD. 86.17.222.157 ( talk) 17:34, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
- Redirect to French Canadians. I don't see any other reasonable entries that could justify a dab page (maybe Quebec, but what else?). Clarityfiend ( talk) 01:10, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
- There's a separate standalone article about almost every individual province's or territory's francophone community (except the Maritimes, where they're all subsumed into
Acadian rather than having separate provincial identity communities, and Nunavut).
Bearcat (
talk)
01:45, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
- Off the top of my head, the term "French Canada" would be a reasonable search term for
French Canadians,
Quebec and other parts of
New France in what is now Canada (such as
Acadia), and
Francophone Canada, which is a redirect to
French language in Canada.--
Cúchullain
t/
c
02:50, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
- French Canada could possibly refer collectively to all the regions of Canada where francophones reside (although I don't recall it ever being used that way), but definitely not individual areas like Acadia.
Clarityfiend (
talk)
10:50, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
- It can and does refer to the parts of Canada that were French colonies, which includes Acadia (meaning, not just present-day Quebec). It's a similar construction to French Louisiana, Spanish California, Mexican Texas, etc.-- Cúchullain t/ c 13:11, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
- By what definition of "all the regions of Canada where francophones reside" is Acadia not one of those regions? Bearcat ( talk) 16:15, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
- French Canada could possibly refer collectively to all the regions of Canada where francophones reside (although I don't recall it ever being used that way), but definitely not individual areas like Acadia.
Clarityfiend (
talk)
10:50, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
- Off the top of my head, the term "French Canada" would be a reasonable search term for
French Canadians,
Quebec and other parts of
New France in what is now Canada (such as
Acadia), and
Francophone Canada, which is a redirect to
French language in Canada.--
Cúchullain
t/
c
02:50, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
- There's a separate standalone article about almost every individual province's or territory's francophone community (except the Maritimes, where they're all subsumed into
Acadian rather than having separate provincial identity communities, and Nunavut).
Bearcat (
talk)
01:45, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
- I agree that this isn't useful as a standalone article, as there's nothing it can really cover that isn't already covered in French Canadian and its various spinoff pages — but it is too common a phrase to simply be left redlinked, and indeed needs to get the reader somewhere relevant. Even though potential items do exist besides Quebec to make it a dab page (e.g. Franco-Ontarian, Acadians, Franco-Manitoban, French language in Canada, etc.), all of those are also linked in French Canadians already. The best solution, accordingly, is indeed a redirect to French Canadians — the only other alternative, really, would be to turn it into a full-on outline index of all remotely related pages, and that's probably excessive. Bearcat ( talk) 01:49, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Quebec-related deletion discussions. Bearcat ( talk) 01:55, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
- Redirect to French Canadians. Along with all of the excellent reasons put forth above, French Canada really is defined by the presence of French Canadians, both currently and historically, which is well covered under French Canadians. nerdgoonrant ( talk) 17:23, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
- Redirect to French Canadians, obviously. Shawn in Montreal ( talk) 19:49, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
- Redirect to French Canadians. Montanabw (talk) 08:36, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
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