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The result was delete. ♠ PMC♠ (talk) 06:11, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
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I am unable to find evidence that this is a notable cemetery, and their own website doesn't even make a particular claim to notability. A BEFORE indicates only burials from local obituaries and one mention (p95} of its existence, nothing that would approach significant, independent coverage to meet WP:ORG. Star Mississippi 01:43, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
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- Comment by stub creator: When I search "Forest Lawn"+"Gresham" at the Oregonian archives via Multnomah County Library, there are 8,443 returns just through 1987. Searching the same at the 1987 to present database yields 1,466 returns. I'm not going to comb through all those just to save this stub (shrug...), even if the site is indeed notable. ---
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02:35, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
- Comment I also didn't read one thousand in detail, but much of what I saw was burial notices. Thought books might have had something but the one about the county cemeteries focused on the historic ones while just name dropping this, unfortunately. Star Mississippi 17:41, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
- Delete Concur with nom. This cemetery is not particularly old (1960) and has around 5k burials. Little but routine coverage here (notices of burials). MB 04:54, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗ plicit 01:48, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
- Keep in keeping with scope of GEO WP:GEOPURP - WP:GEOFEAT. Cemeteries do not have their own guideline but they should. WP:CEMETERY. Until they do I have to ivote keep. Cemeteries are permanent man made historic places. Lightburst ( talk) 01:56, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete No indication whatsoever this is "historic", and even so there are millions of "man made historic places" in the world. Closing admin should disregard the above call to ignore significant coverage, which is in fact required by GEOFEAT. This does not have heritage status. Reywas92 Talk 03:02, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
- Delete No claim of notability or evidence of significant coverage has been. Another Believer, please ensure that topics are well sourced at the time of article creation; Find a Grave is not an acceptable source. – dlthewave ☎ 02:08, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. ♠ PMC♠ (talk) 06:11, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
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- Forest Lawn Cemetery (Gresham, Oregon) ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log)
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I am unable to find evidence that this is a notable cemetery, and their own website doesn't even make a particular claim to notability. A BEFORE indicates only burials from local obituaries and one mention (p95} of its existence, nothing that would approach significant, independent coverage to meet WP:ORG. Star Mississippi 01:43, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. Star Mississippi 01:43, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Oregon-related deletion discussions. Star Mississippi 01:43, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
- Comment by stub creator: When I search "Forest Lawn"+"Gresham" at the Oregonian archives via Multnomah County Library, there are 8,443 returns just through 1987. Searching the same at the 1987 to present database yields 1,466 returns. I'm not going to comb through all those just to save this stub (shrug...), even if the site is indeed notable. ---
Another Believer (
Talk)
02:35, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
- Comment I also didn't read one thousand in detail, but much of what I saw was burial notices. Thought books might have had something but the one about the county cemeteries focused on the historic ones while just name dropping this, unfortunately. Star Mississippi 17:41, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
- Delete Concur with nom. This cemetery is not particularly old (1960) and has around 5k burials. Little but routine coverage here (notices of burials). MB 04:54, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗ plicit 01:48, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗ plicit 01:48, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
- Keep in keeping with scope of GEO WP:GEOPURP - WP:GEOFEAT. Cemeteries do not have their own guideline but they should. WP:CEMETERY. Until they do I have to ivote keep. Cemeteries are permanent man made historic places. Lightburst ( talk) 01:56, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Lightburst ( talk) 01:56, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
- Delete No indication whatsoever this is "historic", and even so there are millions of "man made historic places" in the world. Closing admin should disregard the above call to ignore significant coverage, which is in fact required by GEOFEAT. This does not have heritage status. Reywas92 Talk 03:02, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
- Delete No claim of notability or evidence of significant coverage has been. Another Believer, please ensure that topics are well sourced at the time of article creation; Find a Grave is not an acceptable source. – dlthewave ☎ 02:08, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
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