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The result was delete. Sandstein 08:03, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
Fiction set in the 21st century
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Same scope as Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/4th millennium in fiction and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Far future in fiction for a different time period. -- Beland ( talk) 08:49, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
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- Delete Per WP:LISTCRUFT, specifically that it is too broad to effectively update and maintain. This really only functions as a category. The content is also largely unreferenced and almost entirely skewed towards gaming and anime, which is ridiculous as there is plenty of fiction set in the 21st century. It's useless for the average reader for this reason. ZXCVBNM ( TALK) 12:26, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
- Rework/retitle per some of the discussion in the article talk. I would support something similar to what I suggested there, with the current article moved to "fictional futures of the 21st century" and a new article for 21st century fiction potentially created (or maybe not, as that would probably turn into listcruft), or else a merge into a broader "fiction set in the near future" type article, such as @ Johnpacklambert: suggested on my talk page (ping him into this discussion as he seems to have interest). BlackholeWA ( talk) 13:25, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
- Delete - Much like the mentioned Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Far future in fiction, I do think there is potential for some kind of prose article on the concept to be made for this one. However, as this current list is nothing but a very poorly sourced mess of WP:TRIVIA and pop culture references, there is nothing that should actually be retained in order to do so. I think an article on a broader topic as suggested by BlackholeWA is a fine idea, but again, this does not need to be kept in order for that to happen, as there is essentially nothing of value here. Rorshacma ( talk) 18:03, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
- Keep I was looking for information about science fiction set in a particular year, and, despite its incompleteness, this (and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Far future in fiction) was one of the best sources I could find. Reworking it to be more encyclopedic or moving it to another wiki might work, but as it is it was already useful to me. Oct 5 2020 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:148:200:91F0:897B:DA4D:7AD9:9C43 ( talk) 14:38, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
- Delete what we have here at present is a total mess that ignores the vast majority of fiction actually with this setting. There is potential for exploring the changing ideas of what the 21st-century would be like and how this has been expressed in fiction. We would need sourcing to prose articles that discuss this, not just original research directly connecting to works of fiction that depict this. To keep this we would need actual reliable source sourcing which we currently lack. Do not get me started on how irregular it is to treat this as a sub-set of fiction of the future when some of hte century is now in the past. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 14:54, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
- Delete. Would need RSes that actually discuss the 21st century as represented in fiction. Mike Christie ( talk - contribs - library) 20:59, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
- Delete as a catalog of primary-sourced trivia, failing WP:NOT#PLOT and WP:GNG. Shooterwalker ( talk) 04:46, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
- Delete as WP:LISTCRUFT that has already devolved into a repository of non-notable additions. Zing( Talk!) 05:50, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
- Delete per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/4th millennium in fiction and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Far future in fiction, as suggested by nom. These articles are collections of trivial unsourced references, with no third-party sources to establish notability. Jontesta ( talk) 16:08, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Sandstein 08:03, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
Fiction set in the 21st century
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Same scope as Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/4th millennium in fiction and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Far future in fiction for a different time period. -- Beland ( talk) 08:49, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Science fiction and fantasy-related deletion discussions. Beland ( talk) 08:49, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Video games-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 11:19, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Popular culture-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 11:19, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
- Delete Per WP:LISTCRUFT, specifically that it is too broad to effectively update and maintain. This really only functions as a category. The content is also largely unreferenced and almost entirely skewed towards gaming and anime, which is ridiculous as there is plenty of fiction set in the 21st century. It's useless for the average reader for this reason. ZXCVBNM ( TALK) 12:26, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
- Rework/retitle per some of the discussion in the article talk. I would support something similar to what I suggested there, with the current article moved to "fictional futures of the 21st century" and a new article for 21st century fiction potentially created (or maybe not, as that would probably turn into listcruft), or else a merge into a broader "fiction set in the near future" type article, such as @ Johnpacklambert: suggested on my talk page (ping him into this discussion as he seems to have interest). BlackholeWA ( talk) 13:25, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
- Delete - Much like the mentioned Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Far future in fiction, I do think there is potential for some kind of prose article on the concept to be made for this one. However, as this current list is nothing but a very poorly sourced mess of WP:TRIVIA and pop culture references, there is nothing that should actually be retained in order to do so. I think an article on a broader topic as suggested by BlackholeWA is a fine idea, but again, this does not need to be kept in order for that to happen, as there is essentially nothing of value here. Rorshacma ( talk) 18:03, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
- Keep I was looking for information about science fiction set in a particular year, and, despite its incompleteness, this (and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Far future in fiction) was one of the best sources I could find. Reworking it to be more encyclopedic or moving it to another wiki might work, but as it is it was already useful to me. Oct 5 2020 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:148:200:91F0:897B:DA4D:7AD9:9C43 ( talk) 14:38, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
- Delete what we have here at present is a total mess that ignores the vast majority of fiction actually with this setting. There is potential for exploring the changing ideas of what the 21st-century would be like and how this has been expressed in fiction. We would need sourcing to prose articles that discuss this, not just original research directly connecting to works of fiction that depict this. To keep this we would need actual reliable source sourcing which we currently lack. Do not get me started on how irregular it is to treat this as a sub-set of fiction of the future when some of hte century is now in the past. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 14:54, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
- Delete. Would need RSes that actually discuss the 21st century as represented in fiction. Mike Christie ( talk - contribs - library) 20:59, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
- Delete as a catalog of primary-sourced trivia, failing WP:NOT#PLOT and WP:GNG. Shooterwalker ( talk) 04:46, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
- Delete as WP:LISTCRUFT that has already devolved into a repository of non-notable additions. Zing( Talk!) 05:50, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
- Delete per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/4th millennium in fiction and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Far future in fiction, as suggested by nom. These articles are collections of trivial unsourced references, with no third-party sources to establish notability. Jontesta ( talk) 16:08, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.