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The result was delete. Mark Arsten ( talk) 00:25, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
Evoor Damodaran Nair
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I PROD'd this but the prod and my removal of peacock and weasel words was reverted by the page creator. I can't find anything on this guy in google - I'm not saying sources don't exist, but if they do they aren't in google. This is poorly sourced as it is. Perhaps someone with more experience in sleuthing out Indian sources can find something, but I can't even establish this man existed under this name using my resources, let alone establish notability. TKK! bark with me if you're my dog! 19:44, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
- Delete No evidence of notability. The Google Books reference appears false, as a search does not find a reference to Evoor Damodaran Nair in that book - or at least that portion available via Google books.
This article was rejected at Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Evoor Damodaran Nair, but exactly the same text was pasted into main-space. I was posting a question about that at Wikipedia:Help_desk#Articles_created_in_main-space_despite_being_rejected_at_Articles_for_creation when Tikuko made this nomination. Arjayay ( talk) 20:03, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
- There's nothing false about the book reference ( ISBN 9788126009350 published by the eminently reliable Sahitya Akademi - it's not a "Google Books reference", but a reliable book reference found by the Google Books search engine) which says, "... and Evoor Damodaran Nair are some of the prominent Thullal dancers who have worked long to popularise Thullal." Google Books varies in what content it displays according to various factors that seem to include the reader's location, how many people have looked at it recently and a great deal of randomness, but absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. Phil Bridger ( talk) 21:00, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
- Hence my comments "appears false" and "or at least that portion available via Google books."
However, from your quote, this appears to be one name at the end of a list, a "trivial" reference which does not prove notability. WP:BLPNOTE requires "multiple published secondary sources which are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject." Arjayay ( talk) 08:18, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
- Hence my comments "appears false" and "or at least that portion available via Google books."
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The result was delete. Mark Arsten ( talk) 00:25, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
Evoor Damodaran Nair
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I PROD'd this but the prod and my removal of peacock and weasel words was reverted by the page creator. I can't find anything on this guy in google - I'm not saying sources don't exist, but if they do they aren't in google. This is poorly sourced as it is. Perhaps someone with more experience in sleuthing out Indian sources can find something, but I can't even establish this man existed under this name using my resources, let alone establish notability. TKK! bark with me if you're my dog! 19:44, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
- Delete No evidence of notability. The Google Books reference appears false, as a search does not find a reference to Evoor Damodaran Nair in that book - or at least that portion available via Google books.
This article was rejected at Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Evoor Damodaran Nair, but exactly the same text was pasted into main-space. I was posting a question about that at Wikipedia:Help_desk#Articles_created_in_main-space_despite_being_rejected_at_Articles_for_creation when Tikuko made this nomination. Arjayay ( talk) 20:03, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
- There's nothing false about the book reference ( ISBN 9788126009350 published by the eminently reliable Sahitya Akademi - it's not a "Google Books reference", but a reliable book reference found by the Google Books search engine) which says, "... and Evoor Damodaran Nair are some of the prominent Thullal dancers who have worked long to popularise Thullal." Google Books varies in what content it displays according to various factors that seem to include the reader's location, how many people have looked at it recently and a great deal of randomness, but absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. Phil Bridger ( talk) 21:00, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
- Hence my comments "appears false" and "or at least that portion available via Google books."
However, from your quote, this appears to be one name at the end of a list, a "trivial" reference which does not prove notability. WP:BLPNOTE requires "multiple published secondary sources which are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject." Arjayay ( talk) 08:18, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
- Hence my comments "appears false" and "or at least that portion available via Google books."
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 13:51, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
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