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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk, contributions) 20:35, 7 August 2017 (UTC)
Eric Braff
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Although the subject passes In addition to not actually passing
WP:NHOCKEY, I was not able to locate any reliable in-depth independent sources that would indicate that Braff passes
WP:GNG. Most everything available is trivial mentions, routine stats or announcements from the teams themselves, but nothing independent that focuses on Braff. ♠
PMC♠
(talk) 22:28, 31 July 2017 (UTC)
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- Delete: No evidence the subject meets the GNG, and I'm also differing from the nom in that I'm failing to see where in an unheralded, ephemeral career he meets NHOCKEY either. Ravenswing 05:28, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
- I was under the impression he passed by virtue of having played with the
HC Eppan Pirates, who play in Italy's top ice hockey league, but I've just realized I overlooked WikiProject Hockey's list of leagues that actually count for that criterion. ♠
PMC♠
(talk) 05:44, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
- Yep, if we just anointed Every Country's Top League as notable, quite aside from the innate absurdity of the notion, you'd get some beer leaguers in Peru with guaranteed articles.
Ravenswing 21:01, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
- That was what I was thinking and I was like uhhhhh well I guess WP Hockey knows what they're doing...glad to see I was wrong :P ♠
PMC♠
(talk) 21:30, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
- Doesn't he get notability from his time with the
Basingstoke Bison (Criterion #4)?
194.28.127.53 (
talk) 02:50, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
- What awards has he won? Yosemiter ( talk) 04:59, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
- If you looked at criterion #4, you know that it's for a "all-time top ten career scorer or First Team All-Star."
Ravenswing 10:41, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
- (User:194.28.127.53 on a rotating IP) I seem to recall he was awarded 'something' by the league, as it was covered on our regional TV news (which is why I knew the name), but I can't find it at the moment, and Ice Hockey coverage in this country is poor at best, which is why I haven't placed a "keep". Will keep trying to dig for it.
194.28.127.54 (
talk) 23:42, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
- If it is not listed on his Elite Prospects profile , I would doubt that it actually exists (typically listed under "Career Highlights). Those folks are pretty good at knowing about and listing any awards when they are announced. Yosemiter ( talk) 01:29, 7 August 2017 (UTC)
- Leagues award all manner of honors, down to "Community Service of the Week" and "Academic Rookie of the Month" plaudits. The bar for criterion #4 is set very high. Ravenswing 03:07, 7 August 2017 (UTC)
- (User:194.28.127.53 on a rotating IP) I seem to recall he was awarded 'something' by the league, as it was covered on our regional TV news (which is why I knew the name), but I can't find it at the moment, and Ice Hockey coverage in this country is poor at best, which is why I haven't placed a "keep". Will keep trying to dig for it.
194.28.127.54 (
talk) 23:42, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
- Doesn't he get notability from his time with the
Basingstoke Bison (Criterion #4)?
194.28.127.53 (
talk) 02:50, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
- That was what I was thinking and I was like uhhhhh well I guess WP Hockey knows what they're doing...glad to see I was wrong :P ♠
PMC♠
(talk) 21:30, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
- Yep, if we just anointed Every Country's Top League as notable, quite aside from the innate absurdity of the notion, you'd get some beer leaguers in Peru with guaranteed articles.
Ravenswing 21:01, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
- I was under the impression he passed by virtue of having played with the
HC Eppan Pirates, who play in Italy's top ice hockey league, but I've just realized I overlooked WikiProject Hockey's list of leagues that actually count for that criterion. ♠
PMC♠
(talk) 05:44, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
- Delete: Not finding any non-routine sources that would satisfy WP:GNG. Yosemiter ( talk) 05:05, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
- Delete Fails WP:GNG. Not finding any significant coverage anywhere. Currently no listed references in article only a couple external links. Antonioatrylia ( talk) 22:49, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk, contributions) 20:35, 7 August 2017 (UTC)
Eric Braff
- Eric Braff ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
Although the subject passes In addition to not actually passing
WP:NHOCKEY, I was not able to locate any reliable in-depth independent sources that would indicate that Braff passes
WP:GNG. Most everything available is trivial mentions, routine stats or announcements from the teams themselves, but nothing independent that focuses on Braff. ♠
PMC♠
(talk) 22:28, 31 July 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Canada-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 22:36, 31 July 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ice hockey-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 22:37, 31 July 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 22:37, 31 July 2017 (UTC)
- Delete: No evidence the subject meets the GNG, and I'm also differing from the nom in that I'm failing to see where in an unheralded, ephemeral career he meets NHOCKEY either. Ravenswing 05:28, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
- I was under the impression he passed by virtue of having played with the
HC Eppan Pirates, who play in Italy's top ice hockey league, but I've just realized I overlooked WikiProject Hockey's list of leagues that actually count for that criterion. ♠
PMC♠
(talk) 05:44, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
- Yep, if we just anointed Every Country's Top League as notable, quite aside from the innate absurdity of the notion, you'd get some beer leaguers in Peru with guaranteed articles.
Ravenswing 21:01, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
- That was what I was thinking and I was like uhhhhh well I guess WP Hockey knows what they're doing...glad to see I was wrong :P ♠
PMC♠
(talk) 21:30, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
- Doesn't he get notability from his time with the
Basingstoke Bison (Criterion #4)?
194.28.127.53 (
talk) 02:50, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
- What awards has he won? Yosemiter ( talk) 04:59, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
- If you looked at criterion #4, you know that it's for a "all-time top ten career scorer or First Team All-Star."
Ravenswing 10:41, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
- (User:194.28.127.53 on a rotating IP) I seem to recall he was awarded 'something' by the league, as it was covered on our regional TV news (which is why I knew the name), but I can't find it at the moment, and Ice Hockey coverage in this country is poor at best, which is why I haven't placed a "keep". Will keep trying to dig for it.
194.28.127.54 (
talk) 23:42, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
- If it is not listed on his Elite Prospects profile , I would doubt that it actually exists (typically listed under "Career Highlights). Those folks are pretty good at knowing about and listing any awards when they are announced. Yosemiter ( talk) 01:29, 7 August 2017 (UTC)
- Leagues award all manner of honors, down to "Community Service of the Week" and "Academic Rookie of the Month" plaudits. The bar for criterion #4 is set very high. Ravenswing 03:07, 7 August 2017 (UTC)
- (User:194.28.127.53 on a rotating IP) I seem to recall he was awarded 'something' by the league, as it was covered on our regional TV news (which is why I knew the name), but I can't find it at the moment, and Ice Hockey coverage in this country is poor at best, which is why I haven't placed a "keep". Will keep trying to dig for it.
194.28.127.54 (
talk) 23:42, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
- Doesn't he get notability from his time with the
Basingstoke Bison (Criterion #4)?
194.28.127.53 (
talk) 02:50, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
- That was what I was thinking and I was like uhhhhh well I guess WP Hockey knows what they're doing...glad to see I was wrong :P ♠
PMC♠
(talk) 21:30, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
- Yep, if we just anointed Every Country's Top League as notable, quite aside from the innate absurdity of the notion, you'd get some beer leaguers in Peru with guaranteed articles.
Ravenswing 21:01, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
- I was under the impression he passed by virtue of having played with the
HC Eppan Pirates, who play in Italy's top ice hockey league, but I've just realized I overlooked WikiProject Hockey's list of leagues that actually count for that criterion. ♠
PMC♠
(talk) 05:44, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
- Delete: Not finding any non-routine sources that would satisfy WP:GNG. Yosemiter ( talk) 05:05, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
- Delete Fails WP:GNG. Not finding any significant coverage anywhere. Currently no listed references in article only a couple external links. Antonioatrylia ( talk) 22:49, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
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