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This article was proposed for CSD and proded for deletion because the creator of the article
User:Minohaha has failed to provide any reliable sources verifying this individual's notability. Both were contested by Minohaha simply because other first ladies of Egypt have articles -
WP:OSE. Being a first lady is in itself not notable. A quick
Google search provides little if any coverage by reliable sources. There is no mention of this individual in books or news sources. obi2canibetalkcontr 13:10, 14 June 2014 (UTC)reply
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Being a first lady isn't notable. There are only forty unique results in the Google search you provided, almost all of whom are not RS. And they only talk about who is going to be the next first lady and provide brief biographical info. There is nothing there to say this individual is notable.--obi2canibetalkcontr 14:52, 15 June 2014 (UTC)reply
I disagree. I think being the first lady is very much notable. In example,
Mohamed Morsi's wife
Naglaa Mahmoud, she hasn't done anything notable, and yet she has an article in wikipedia.--
46.116.71.115 (
talk) 15:03, 15 June 2014 --
Midrashah (
talk) 15:04, 15 June 2014 (UTC)(UTC)reply
You are repeating
Minohaha's argument that Entsar Amer should have an article simply because Naglaa Mahmoud has an article.
WP:OSE isn't an excuse for keeping an article. You need to show that Entsar Amer is notable - being the wife of someone notable isn't notable. What has Entsar Amer done in her life which makes her notable?--obi2canibetalkcontr 15:24, 15 June 2014 (UTC)reply
Just bother to read all the above and you get your answear. --
Midrashah (
talk) 18:11, 15 June 2014 (UTC)reply
Keep First Lady and she is famous. --
Panam2014 (
talk) 09:24, 16 June 2014 (UTC)reply
Comment So what Michelle Obama did to have a page on Wikipedia, what about Obama's father and mother and his grandfather and grandmother and his whole family, what all of these do to have a page on Wikipedia, similarly the wives of all the presidents in Egypt before, simply these all are given first lady title, information about them is important to people to know more about them and their backgrounds and their contributions and who is these people, I see that it doesn't deserve all of this conversations it is just a small page and maybe a start, and I think the more important information will be added in the future. (
Minohaha (
talk) 14:38, 16 June 2014 (UTC))reply
Keep per
WP:N and
WP:BIO as she is presently the new
First Lady of Egypt. By all accounts she is publicity-shy, but no doubt as even more
WP:VWP:RS arise they will affirm her status and this article. Thank you,
IZAK (
talk) 07:35, 19 June 2014 (UTC)reply
Keep As long as the spouse of a national leader has a public role, they will be notable. There are some spouses of national leaders who will lack public roles, but this one has such. We probably need more sources though, but the question is do the sources exist, not is the article currently using them.
John Pack Lambert (
talk) 00:24, 20 June 2014 (UTC)reply
Keep - Pretty notable person and there is no shortage of RS.
Fitzcarmalan (
talk) 08:48, 23 June 2014 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
This article was proposed for CSD and proded for deletion because the creator of the article
User:Minohaha has failed to provide any reliable sources verifying this individual's notability. Both were contested by Minohaha simply because other first ladies of Egypt have articles -
WP:OSE. Being a first lady is in itself not notable. A quick
Google search provides little if any coverage by reliable sources. There is no mention of this individual in books or news sources. obi2canibetalkcontr 13:10, 14 June 2014 (UTC)reply
The page statistic view show 1059 views in less than a week
[1]
Being a first lady isn't notable. There are only forty unique results in the Google search you provided, almost all of whom are not RS. And they only talk about who is going to be the next first lady and provide brief biographical info. There is nothing there to say this individual is notable.--obi2canibetalkcontr 14:52, 15 June 2014 (UTC)reply
I disagree. I think being the first lady is very much notable. In example,
Mohamed Morsi's wife
Naglaa Mahmoud, she hasn't done anything notable, and yet she has an article in wikipedia.--
46.116.71.115 (
talk) 15:03, 15 June 2014 --
Midrashah (
talk) 15:04, 15 June 2014 (UTC)(UTC)reply
You are repeating
Minohaha's argument that Entsar Amer should have an article simply because Naglaa Mahmoud has an article.
WP:OSE isn't an excuse for keeping an article. You need to show that Entsar Amer is notable - being the wife of someone notable isn't notable. What has Entsar Amer done in her life which makes her notable?--obi2canibetalkcontr 15:24, 15 June 2014 (UTC)reply
Just bother to read all the above and you get your answear. --
Midrashah (
talk) 18:11, 15 June 2014 (UTC)reply
Keep First Lady and she is famous. --
Panam2014 (
talk) 09:24, 16 June 2014 (UTC)reply
Comment So what Michelle Obama did to have a page on Wikipedia, what about Obama's father and mother and his grandfather and grandmother and his whole family, what all of these do to have a page on Wikipedia, similarly the wives of all the presidents in Egypt before, simply these all are given first lady title, information about them is important to people to know more about them and their backgrounds and their contributions and who is these people, I see that it doesn't deserve all of this conversations it is just a small page and maybe a start, and I think the more important information will be added in the future. (
Minohaha (
talk) 14:38, 16 June 2014 (UTC))reply
Keep per
WP:N and
WP:BIO as she is presently the new
First Lady of Egypt. By all accounts she is publicity-shy, but no doubt as even more
WP:VWP:RS arise they will affirm her status and this article. Thank you,
IZAK (
talk) 07:35, 19 June 2014 (UTC)reply
Keep As long as the spouse of a national leader has a public role, they will be notable. There are some spouses of national leaders who will lack public roles, but this one has such. We probably need more sources though, but the question is do the sources exist, not is the article currently using them.
John Pack Lambert (
talk) 00:24, 20 June 2014 (UTC)reply
Keep - Pretty notable person and there is no shortage of RS.
Fitzcarmalan (
talk) 08:48, 23 June 2014 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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