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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 08:10, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
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Fails WP:GNG Nswix ( talk) 17:24, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Sports, Martial arts, Wrestling, and Turkey. Nswix ( talk) 17:24, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
- Keep - Has 2 other wiki pages and won a European Gold Medal at the U-23 age bracket. KatoKungLee ( talk) 21:56, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
- Comment Junior martial arts events are generally not considered to show WP notability, even world champions or Junior Olympics. Many junior champions have had articles deleted as WP:MANOTE and WP:NSPORT both specify competing "at the highest level", which is not the junior level. The number of wiki pages he has is irrelevant to notability on the English WP. Papaursa ( talk) 13:50, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Randykitty ( talk) 17:34, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
* Prob Keep - it seems to me that the first two references currently on the page count as RS and go towards meeting the standards of the GNG. On that basis, I think the subject is likely notable.
JMWt (
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Comment. The first reference comes from aa.com.tr, for which "reliability depends on contributor or topic"; does anyone know how to gauge reliability of this source? The second ref includes a passage copied (seemingly unattributed) directly from Wikipedia, leaving just a few sentences of routine results recap to consider independent coverage. The rest of the sources are databases, releases from non-independent bodies, routine results announcements, or passing mentions. Doesn't pass GNG so far. JoelleJay ( talk) 21:48, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
- Delete Fails WP:GNG due to lack of WP:SIGCOV. Alvaldi ( talk) 20:26, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
- Delete Currently ranked 24th and has only one appearance at a non-junior world championship. In 2021 he won his first match, lost in the round of 16, and lost his first repechage match. I agree with JoelleJay's assessment of the sources. Even if the first source is agreed to be reliable, one source is insufficient to meet WP:GNG. Papaursa ( talk) 22:08, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
- Delete, per lack of GNG sourcing. JoelleJay ( talk) 23:52, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 08:10, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
Emrah Ormanoğlu
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Fails WP:GNG Nswix ( talk) 17:24, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Sports, Martial arts, Wrestling, and Turkey. Nswix ( talk) 17:24, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
- Keep - Has 2 other wiki pages and won a European Gold Medal at the U-23 age bracket. KatoKungLee ( talk) 21:56, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
- Comment Junior martial arts events are generally not considered to show WP notability, even world champions or Junior Olympics. Many junior champions have had articles deleted as WP:MANOTE and WP:NSPORT both specify competing "at the highest level", which is not the junior level. The number of wiki pages he has is irrelevant to notability on the English WP. Papaursa ( talk) 13:50, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Randykitty ( talk) 17:34, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
* Prob Keep - it seems to me that the first two references currently on the page count as RS and go towards meeting the standards of the GNG. On that basis, I think the subject is likely notable.
JMWt (
talk) 18:05, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
Comment. The first reference comes from aa.com.tr, for which "reliability depends on contributor or topic"; does anyone know how to gauge reliability of this source? The second ref includes a passage copied (seemingly unattributed) directly from Wikipedia, leaving just a few sentences of routine results recap to consider independent coverage. The rest of the sources are databases, releases from non-independent bodies, routine results announcements, or passing mentions. Doesn't pass GNG so far. JoelleJay ( talk) 21:48, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
- Delete Fails WP:GNG due to lack of WP:SIGCOV. Alvaldi ( talk) 20:26, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
- Delete Currently ranked 24th and has only one appearance at a non-junior world championship. In 2021 he won his first match, lost in the round of 16, and lost his first repechage match. I agree with JoelleJay's assessment of the sources. Even if the first source is agreed to be reliable, one source is insufficient to meet WP:GNG. Papaursa ( talk) 22:08, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
- Delete, per lack of GNG sourcing. JoelleJay ( talk) 23:52, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
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