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The result was Delete Snowball close for WP:BLP concerns. Guy ( Help!) 16:52, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
Emma Kenny
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After looking for reliable sources to expand this article, I have found very little to support her notability. Fails WP:BLPNOTE Flat Out let's discuss it 08:12, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
- I agree that this person is not notable. -- Alarics ( talk) 08:24, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
- Weak delete. As mentioned above, no sign of notability. Rafaelgriffin ( talk) 08:44, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
- Likewise. Gryllida 09:40, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
- Delete I picked up on this from a post on WP:ANI. I just spent a goodly amount of time digging for info about her. There is a substantial amount of articles and other media pieces that she is asked to comment on. However, that puts her in the "passing mention" sort of references. She's obviously high profile enough such that her opinion is sought for these articles, whether it be behavioural psychology, commentary on gossip mags/sites, etc but she's invariably not been the focus of the article and that is what is required for an article on her. Blackmane ( talk) 12:56, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
- Delete. No indication of real or lasting notability. Fails WP:ENT. Justlettersandnumbers ( talk) 13:13, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
- I was going to delete this as SNOWy, but ran across this. I don't have access to the BMJ (I know, it's ridiculous) so I can't judge if there is enough material in there to support a BLP (which would have to say something about her career as a whole, not just about the "controversy", if that's what it was). DGG, can you read that article, if you have a moment, and see if that (and perhaps other news coverage--there are a couple of articles) carries her over any of the relevant thresholds here? If it doesn't, in your judgment, and you think this ought to be a SNOW delete, be my guest. Thanks, Drmies ( talk) 15:04, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
- Delete. I do have access to the BMJ article (McCartney M. The rise of the pop psychologists. BMJ 2012;344:e3541 doe:10.1136/bmj.e3541). The article does not support notability, nor can I find other sources to do so. Here's some information about the article in question:
- "The media seem to have no problem finding psychiatrists and psychologists to comment on anything from celebrity behaviour on so called reality shows to whether Anders Breivik is sane. But is this good for public understanding of mental health, asks Margaret McCartney" (see HealthWatch)
- It is in the OBSERVATIONS section of the Journal, so it is essentially an opinion piece.
- "Provenance and peer review: Commissioned; not externally peer reviewed."
- The article is 10 paragraphs long. Two paragraphs mention Emma Kenny, with the second being to note that neither she nor another "frequent media commentator" mentioned in another paragraph are on the the British Psychological Society's list of “chartered psychologists" and that the "Society discourages direct psychological comment on the behaviour of celebrities but doesn’t enforce it.” JoeSperrazza ( talk • contribs) 20:09, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks Joe. Nonsenseferret, thanks for your kind offer, but I think this nails it well enough. Drmies ( talk) 02:19, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
- Delete - No evidence of notability. Robert McClenon ( talk) 18:48, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
- Delete Subject meets neither WP:BASIC nor WP:ANYBIO. Mini apolis 00:06, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
- Delete Notability. CombatWombat42 ( talk) 15:41, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
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The result was Delete Snowball close for WP:BLP concerns. Guy ( Help!) 16:52, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
Emma Kenny
- Emma Kenny ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
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After looking for reliable sources to expand this article, I have found very little to support her notability. Fails WP:BLPNOTE Flat Out let's discuss it 08:12, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
- I agree that this person is not notable. -- Alarics ( talk) 08:24, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
- Weak delete. As mentioned above, no sign of notability. Rafaelgriffin ( talk) 08:44, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
- Likewise. Gryllida 09:40, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
- Delete I picked up on this from a post on WP:ANI. I just spent a goodly amount of time digging for info about her. There is a substantial amount of articles and other media pieces that she is asked to comment on. However, that puts her in the "passing mention" sort of references. She's obviously high profile enough such that her opinion is sought for these articles, whether it be behavioural psychology, commentary on gossip mags/sites, etc but she's invariably not been the focus of the article and that is what is required for an article on her. Blackmane ( talk) 12:56, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
- Delete. No indication of real or lasting notability. Fails WP:ENT. Justlettersandnumbers ( talk) 13:13, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
- I was going to delete this as SNOWy, but ran across this. I don't have access to the BMJ (I know, it's ridiculous) so I can't judge if there is enough material in there to support a BLP (which would have to say something about her career as a whole, not just about the "controversy", if that's what it was). DGG, can you read that article, if you have a moment, and see if that (and perhaps other news coverage--there are a couple of articles) carries her over any of the relevant thresholds here? If it doesn't, in your judgment, and you think this ought to be a SNOW delete, be my guest. Thanks, Drmies ( talk) 15:04, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
- Delete. I do have access to the BMJ article (McCartney M. The rise of the pop psychologists. BMJ 2012;344:e3541 doe:10.1136/bmj.e3541). The article does not support notability, nor can I find other sources to do so. Here's some information about the article in question:
- "The media seem to have no problem finding psychiatrists and psychologists to comment on anything from celebrity behaviour on so called reality shows to whether Anders Breivik is sane. But is this good for public understanding of mental health, asks Margaret McCartney" (see HealthWatch)
- It is in the OBSERVATIONS section of the Journal, so it is essentially an opinion piece.
- "Provenance and peer review: Commissioned; not externally peer reviewed."
- The article is 10 paragraphs long. Two paragraphs mention Emma Kenny, with the second being to note that neither she nor another "frequent media commentator" mentioned in another paragraph are on the the British Psychological Society's list of “chartered psychologists" and that the "Society discourages direct psychological comment on the behaviour of celebrities but doesn’t enforce it.” JoeSperrazza ( talk • contribs) 20:09, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks Joe. Nonsenseferret, thanks for your kind offer, but I think this nails it well enough. Drmies ( talk) 02:19, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
- Delete - No evidence of notability. Robert McClenon ( talk) 18:48, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
- Delete Subject meets neither WP:BASIC nor WP:ANYBIO. Mini apolis 00:06, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
- Delete Notability. CombatWombat42 ( talk) 15:41, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.