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The result was delete. I find the deletion arguments substantially stronger. Vanamonde ( Talk) 20:12, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
Emily Roughan
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Fails WP:NTRACK and WP:SPORTSCRIT. Only primary sources provided. LibStar ( talk) 23:34, 20 August 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Women, and New Zealand. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 19:49, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
Weak keep there are some article about her like 2011 Stuff-article during her early years, 2021 Daily-Sun-article about her and her partner and 2023 NZ-Times-article described her as the captain at the 2023 World Championships. Articles not counting I think (too short and somehow related to the subject) are the many of announcement- and results-articles with some paragraphs about her like NAU Athletics and New Zealand athletics. Note that her best result: 10th-place at the 2023 World Championships is not included in the article. 109.37.152.36 ( talk) 10:22, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
- Comment Thank you 109.37.152.36 for finding the 2011 Stuff article (the first link above), I think this is a good reference to support notability. But it doesn't seem enough on its own, so does anyone have more examples of in-depth coverage? Regards, MrsSnoozyTurtle 01:47, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:17, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
- Keep Twice represented New Zealand at the
IAAF World Cross Country Championships (highest level of the sport of cross country) and captained the national women's team.
SFB
17:41, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
- Representing at the "highest" level is not a criterion for WP:NTRACK. LibStar ( talk) 23:30, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
- Comment 3 of the 4 sources are primary. The other one is a small mention of Roughan. LibStar ( talk) 01:35, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
- Delete.The Stuff article is a high school interview (fails YOUNGATH) conducted by a journalism student (not RS)
. All the other sources are passing mentions. The Daily Sun article literally just says, 3/4 of the way into the text, "So Baxter, his wife, Emily Roughan, and Miles booked tickets." That's the only time she is mentioned other than once in a followup quote by Baxter. That is patently not an article about her and her partner
. The times.co.nz article has 1.5 sentences mentioning her . Does not meet GNG.
- Delete.The Stuff article is a high school interview (fails YOUNGATH) conducted by a journalism student (not RS)
- JoelleJay ( talk) 23:41, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
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The result was delete. I find the deletion arguments substantially stronger. Vanamonde ( Talk) 20:12, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
Emily Roughan
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Fails WP:NTRACK and WP:SPORTSCRIT. Only primary sources provided. LibStar ( talk) 23:34, 20 August 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Women, and New Zealand. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 19:49, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
Weak keep there are some article about her like 2011 Stuff-article during her early years, 2021 Daily-Sun-article about her and her partner and 2023 NZ-Times-article described her as the captain at the 2023 World Championships. Articles not counting I think (too short and somehow related to the subject) are the many of announcement- and results-articles with some paragraphs about her like NAU Athletics and New Zealand athletics. Note that her best result: 10th-place at the 2023 World Championships is not included in the article. 109.37.152.36 ( talk) 10:22, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
- Comment Thank you 109.37.152.36 for finding the 2011 Stuff article (the first link above), I think this is a good reference to support notability. But it doesn't seem enough on its own, so does anyone have more examples of in-depth coverage? Regards, MrsSnoozyTurtle 01:47, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:17, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
- Keep Twice represented New Zealand at the
IAAF World Cross Country Championships (highest level of the sport of cross country) and captained the national women's team.
SFB
17:41, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
- Representing at the "highest" level is not a criterion for WP:NTRACK. LibStar ( talk) 23:30, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
- Comment 3 of the 4 sources are primary. The other one is a small mention of Roughan. LibStar ( talk) 01:35, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
- Delete.The Stuff article is a high school interview (fails YOUNGATH) conducted by a journalism student (not RS) . All the other sources are passing mentions. The Daily Sun article literally just says, 3/4 of the way into the text, "So Baxter, his wife, Emily Roughan, and Miles booked tickets." That's the only time she is mentioned other than once in a followup quote by Baxter. That is patently not
an article about her and her partner
. The times.co.nz article has 1.5 sentences mentioning her . Does not meet GNG.
- Delete.The Stuff article is a high school interview (fails YOUNGATH) conducted by a journalism student (not RS)
- JoelleJay ( talk) 23:41, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
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