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The result was no consensus. MelanieN ( talk) 01:12, 13 March 2017 (UTC)
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Appears to be the subject's CV. None of the article's "references" are independent. Fails WP:PROF/ WP:GNG as there are no apparent reliable sources (at least, not online) that establish the subject's notability in general or as an academic. Brycehughes ( talk) 03:55, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
- Delete The listing of which gallery represents her just makes this way too promotional. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 04:12, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
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- Keep She clearly passes WP:CREATIVE by exhibiting in known museums and major galleries in Israel. The article definitely is copy paste of here CV and need significant rework and improvement, but no doubt she is notable. I am trying to remove CV look and promotional tone at least Arthistorian1977 ( talk) 09:09, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
- Delete In order to meet WP:CREATIVE they need to either have a permanent exhibit or be a major part of the temporary display at a main stream museum. Since the article gives no indication that either is true, I do not believe they meet the minimum requirements. - Galatz Talk 14:54, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
- And she exhibited in mainstream museums, which is indicated in the article: Haifa Museum of Art, Janco Dada Museum in Ein Hod, The Artist House in Tel Aviv, Eretz Israel Museum, Ashdod Museum of Art. So, why delete?
Arthistorian1977 (
talk) 14:59, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
- The only part of
WP:CREATIVE that I feel is applicable is #4 which states The person's work (or works) either (a) has become a significant monument, (b) has been a substantial part of a significant exhibition, (c) has won significant critical attention, or (d) is represented within the permanent collections of several notable galleries or museums. (a) I see no significant monument, (b) which of those exhibits were significant they a substantial part of? I see no mention of that in the article, (c) I see no RS showing significant critical attention, (d) what are the permanent collections within a notable gallery or museum? Being as none of this has been clearly stated in the article I have no reason to believe any of it is true. -
Galatz
Talk 15:09, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
- This part says either - it does not require all of them to be satisfied. And you don't see this part in list of group and solo exhibitions? It's clearly there. Museums where she was part of group exhibitions and the solo exhibitions in the Open Museum. Also, I just noticed the The Ann and Ari Rosenblatt Prize for Visual Art, she received in 2016 makes her pass 4c as well as 4b Arthistorian1977 ( talk) 15:42, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
- One more thing I've found is that her works are part of permanent collection of Janco Dada Museum in Ein Hod and Open Museum. Arthistorian1977 ( talk) 08:52, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
- And one more - 2012 Ministry of Israeli Culture and Sports prize is the second most prestigious cultural award in Israel after Prize Israel. Arthistorian1977 ( talk) 08:58, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
- The only part of
WP:CREATIVE that I feel is applicable is #4 which states The person's work (or works) either (a) has become a significant monument, (b) has been a substantial part of a significant exhibition, (c) has won significant critical attention, or (d) is represented within the permanent collections of several notable galleries or museums. (a) I see no significant monument, (b) which of those exhibits were significant they a substantial part of? I see no mention of that in the article, (c) I see no RS showing significant critical attention, (d) what are the permanent collections within a notable gallery or museum? Being as none of this has been clearly stated in the article I have no reason to believe any of it is true. -
Galatz
Talk 15:09, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
- And she exhibited in mainstream museums, which is indicated in the article: Haifa Museum of Art, Janco Dada Museum in Ein Hod, The Artist House in Tel Aviv, Eretz Israel Museum, Ashdod Museum of Art. So, why delete?
Arthistorian1977 (
talk) 14:59, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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The result was no consensus. MelanieN ( talk) 01:12, 13 March 2017 (UTC)
- Ella Amitay Sadovsky ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
Appears to be the subject's CV. None of the article's "references" are independent. Fails WP:PROF/ WP:GNG as there are no apparent reliable sources (at least, not online) that establish the subject's notability in general or as an academic. Brycehughes ( talk) 03:55, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
- Delete The listing of which gallery represents her just makes this way too promotional. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 04:12, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. B E C K Y S A Y L E S 07:14, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
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- Keep She clearly passes WP:CREATIVE by exhibiting in known museums and major galleries in Israel. The article definitely is copy paste of here CV and need significant rework and improvement, but no doubt she is notable. I am trying to remove CV look and promotional tone at least Arthistorian1977 ( talk) 09:09, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
- Delete In order to meet WP:CREATIVE they need to either have a permanent exhibit or be a major part of the temporary display at a main stream museum. Since the article gives no indication that either is true, I do not believe they meet the minimum requirements. - Galatz Talk 14:54, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
- And she exhibited in mainstream museums, which is indicated in the article: Haifa Museum of Art, Janco Dada Museum in Ein Hod, The Artist House in Tel Aviv, Eretz Israel Museum, Ashdod Museum of Art. So, why delete?
Arthistorian1977 (
talk) 14:59, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
- The only part of
WP:CREATIVE that I feel is applicable is #4 which states The person's work (or works) either (a) has become a significant monument, (b) has been a substantial part of a significant exhibition, (c) has won significant critical attention, or (d) is represented within the permanent collections of several notable galleries or museums. (a) I see no significant monument, (b) which of those exhibits were significant they a substantial part of? I see no mention of that in the article, (c) I see no RS showing significant critical attention, (d) what are the permanent collections within a notable gallery or museum? Being as none of this has been clearly stated in the article I have no reason to believe any of it is true. -
Galatz
Talk 15:09, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
- This part says either - it does not require all of them to be satisfied. And you don't see this part in list of group and solo exhibitions? It's clearly there. Museums where she was part of group exhibitions and the solo exhibitions in the Open Museum. Also, I just noticed the The Ann and Ari Rosenblatt Prize for Visual Art, she received in 2016 makes her pass 4c as well as 4b Arthistorian1977 ( talk) 15:42, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
- One more thing I've found is that her works are part of permanent collection of Janco Dada Museum in Ein Hod and Open Museum. Arthistorian1977 ( talk) 08:52, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
- And one more - 2012 Ministry of Israeli Culture and Sports prize is the second most prestigious cultural award in Israel after Prize Israel. Arthistorian1977 ( talk) 08:58, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
- The only part of
WP:CREATIVE that I feel is applicable is #4 which states The person's work (or works) either (a) has become a significant monument, (b) has been a substantial part of a significant exhibition, (c) has won significant critical attention, or (d) is represented within the permanent collections of several notable galleries or museums. (a) I see no significant monument, (b) which of those exhibits were significant they a substantial part of? I see no mention of that in the article, (c) I see no RS showing significant critical attention, (d) what are the permanent collections within a notable gallery or museum? Being as none of this has been clearly stated in the article I have no reason to believe any of it is true. -
Galatz
Talk 15:09, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
- And she exhibited in mainstream museums, which is indicated in the article: Haifa Museum of Art, Janco Dada Museum in Ein Hod, The Artist House in Tel Aviv, Eretz Israel Museum, Ashdod Museum of Art. So, why delete?
Arthistorian1977 (
talk) 14:59, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Onel5969 TT me 20:36, 25 February 2017 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Onel5969 TT me 20:36, 25 February 2017 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MBisanz talk 23:04, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
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