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The result was keep. No support for deletion. (non-admin closure) Atlantic306 ( talk) 20:56, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
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Sadly, I don't think this individual meets our notability criteria. There's perhaps an argument for notability under WP:AUTHOR, but I haven't been able to find significant coverage to meet WP:GNG - which is presumably why the article has to rely on non-published sources for details of the date of death. Cordless Larry ( talk) 10:45, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
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- Published source of Date of Death information provided.User Vernon White 20-10-2020
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- Comment @ DGG: as although his expertise is in academics, believe he also has a more general library background and can advise. Personally feel like there might be enough there, especially if we can find better sourcing on Besterman/McColvin Award. At the moment, neutral as I look further into Milligan. StarM 15:54, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
- Keep. He was the librarian of a specialized society, which does not usually lead to notability, but he seems to have been the principal figure in the field. He furthermore has two of the automatic passes in WP:PROF--he received an honorary degree, (other than one from his own institution) , and a festschrift was written as a tribute to him. I'm not familiarwith the prize, but it might be additional. DGG ( talk ) 18:20, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for your input, DGG, which is always appreciated. Yes, I did consider the festschrift, although the reference in the article suggests that it was self-published by one of the editors, so I largely discounted it. I hadn't appreciated the significance of the honorary degree for WP:PROF, however. Cordless Larry ( talk) 19:07, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks DGG ( talk · contribs). Also pretty sure I learned the term festschrift from you in a conversation somewhere about this project. StarM 20:06, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 19:01, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 19:01, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
- Keep -- This is a case that does not quite fit with the standard criteria, either for academics or authors, but I would expect the holder of his library post to be a prime authority on the history of Quakers. I see at least 5 serious academic works among his listed publications. Furthermore, having a festschrift, normally associated with retirement is an indication that other scholars regarded the person as notable. Several of these alone would perhaps not be quite enough for WP notability. Added together, I think they should take him over that hurdle. Peterkingiron ( talk) 16:08, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
- As Ted Milligan died quite recently, it may be that an authoritative obituary maybe published soon. Vernon White . . . Talk
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The result was keep. No support for deletion. (non-admin closure) Atlantic306 ( talk) 20:56, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
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- Edward H. Milligan ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log)
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Sadly, I don't think this individual meets our notability criteria. There's perhaps an argument for notability under WP:AUTHOR, but I haven't been able to find significant coverage to meet WP:GNG - which is presumably why the article has to rely on non-published sources for details of the date of death. Cordless Larry ( talk) 10:45, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
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- Published source of Date of Death information provided.User Vernon White 20-10-2020
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp ( talk) 09:52, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
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- Comment @ DGG: as although his expertise is in academics, believe he also has a more general library background and can advise. Personally feel like there might be enough there, especially if we can find better sourcing on Besterman/McColvin Award. At the moment, neutral as I look further into Milligan. StarM 15:54, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
- Keep. He was the librarian of a specialized society, which does not usually lead to notability, but he seems to have been the principal figure in the field. He furthermore has two of the automatic passes in WP:PROF--he received an honorary degree, (other than one from his own institution) , and a festschrift was written as a tribute to him. I'm not familiarwith the prize, but it might be additional. DGG ( talk ) 18:20, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for your input, DGG, which is always appreciated. Yes, I did consider the festschrift, although the reference in the article suggests that it was self-published by one of the editors, so I largely discounted it. I hadn't appreciated the significance of the honorary degree for WP:PROF, however. Cordless Larry ( talk) 19:07, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks DGG ( talk · contribs). Also pretty sure I learned the term festschrift from you in a conversation somewhere about this project. StarM 20:06, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 19:01, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 19:01, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
- Keep -- This is a case that does not quite fit with the standard criteria, either for academics or authors, but I would expect the holder of his library post to be a prime authority on the history of Quakers. I see at least 5 serious academic works among his listed publications. Furthermore, having a festschrift, normally associated with retirement is an indication that other scholars regarded the person as notable. Several of these alone would perhaps not be quite enough for WP notability. Added together, I think they should take him over that hurdle. Peterkingiron ( talk) 16:08, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
- As Ted Milligan died quite recently, it may be that an authoritative obituary maybe published soon. Vernon White . . . Talk
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