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The result was Keep. Consensus clearly against deletion. The possibility of redirection can be discussed on the article's talk page. Let me know if you want a copy of that
Virginian-Pilot featureczar⨹ 21:17, 30 November 2014 (UTC)reply
Delete With all honesty it probably passes GNG with another few articles I found, but the coverage is pretty much 100% because he happens to throw a knuckleball. I don't agree in keeping an article because sportswriters love this type of stuff. He's still a run of the mill non-prospect.--
Yankees10 17:30, 7 November 2014 (UTC)reply
Your deletion reason boils down to
WP:IDONTLIKEIT. If it meets GNG, it meets GNG. –
Muboshgu (
talk) 16:10, 10 November 2014 (UTC)reply
Keep Notable coverage is notable coverage, even if it's largely based on one facet of the guy's game. He gets considerable mention in these links:
[1],
[2],
[3],
[4],
[5],
[6],
[7],
[8],
[9],
[10],
[11],
[12],
[13]. I only say weak keep, though, because many of the articles come from the same source, the Baltimore Sun.
Alex (
talk) 20:12, 7 November 2014 (UTC)reply
There's also
[14] and there's also a Virginia Pilot feature article on him, but I can't find the text of it online (only the title and an abstract). But I think he passes GNG now.
Alex (
talk) 02:20, 10 November 2014 (UTC)reply
Redirect. Subject received one article where the subject received
significant coverage from a non-primary or secondary reliable sources, where the subject was the primary topic of the content; this is from
USA Today (not an insignificant source). Beyond that the subject has only received passing mention, that does not meet significant coverage. In relation to the subject's sporting career, the subject received significant coverage for one event, multiple times, from multiple reliable sources:
CSNBaltimore,
MASN, and
Baltimore Sun. This is for Doping. Therefore, it is my opinion that the subject falls under
WP:BIO1E, therefore as the subject is notable primarily for the doming event, the subject's article should be recreated to a redirect to the list regarding the event here:
List of Major League Baseball players suspended for performance-enhancing drugs#Players with only minor-league experience or former MLB players. If the subject receives significant coverage outside of doping, or plays in a major league game, than this article should be recreated and expanded.--
RightCowLeftCoast (
talk) 05:55, 8 November 2014 (UTC)reply
Keep I think the sources provided are significant, and combined pass muster via GNG. I disagree that they're all about doping, as RightCowLeftCoast suggest, as Yankees10 demonstrates that a lot of the coverage is about his throwing a
knuckleball. The reason for coverage doesn't matter, just whether there's enough of it that's in depth. –
Muboshgu (
talk) 16:13, 10 November 2014 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,
NorthAmerica1000 03:51, 15 November 2014 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,
Spirit of Eagle (
talk) 06:27, 22 November 2014 (UTC)reply
Keep the sources Alex linked are enough for me.
Mellowed Fillmore (
talk) 04:00, 30 November 2014 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was Keep. Consensus clearly against deletion. The possibility of redirection can be discussed on the article's talk page. Let me know if you want a copy of that
Virginian-Pilot featureczar⨹ 21:17, 30 November 2014 (UTC)reply
Delete With all honesty it probably passes GNG with another few articles I found, but the coverage is pretty much 100% because he happens to throw a knuckleball. I don't agree in keeping an article because sportswriters love this type of stuff. He's still a run of the mill non-prospect.--
Yankees10 17:30, 7 November 2014 (UTC)reply
Your deletion reason boils down to
WP:IDONTLIKEIT. If it meets GNG, it meets GNG. –
Muboshgu (
talk) 16:10, 10 November 2014 (UTC)reply
Keep Notable coverage is notable coverage, even if it's largely based on one facet of the guy's game. He gets considerable mention in these links:
[1],
[2],
[3],
[4],
[5],
[6],
[7],
[8],
[9],
[10],
[11],
[12],
[13]. I only say weak keep, though, because many of the articles come from the same source, the Baltimore Sun.
Alex (
talk) 20:12, 7 November 2014 (UTC)reply
There's also
[14] and there's also a Virginia Pilot feature article on him, but I can't find the text of it online (only the title and an abstract). But I think he passes GNG now.
Alex (
talk) 02:20, 10 November 2014 (UTC)reply
Redirect. Subject received one article where the subject received
significant coverage from a non-primary or secondary reliable sources, where the subject was the primary topic of the content; this is from
USA Today (not an insignificant source). Beyond that the subject has only received passing mention, that does not meet significant coverage. In relation to the subject's sporting career, the subject received significant coverage for one event, multiple times, from multiple reliable sources:
CSNBaltimore,
MASN, and
Baltimore Sun. This is for Doping. Therefore, it is my opinion that the subject falls under
WP:BIO1E, therefore as the subject is notable primarily for the doming event, the subject's article should be recreated to a redirect to the list regarding the event here:
List of Major League Baseball players suspended for performance-enhancing drugs#Players with only minor-league experience or former MLB players. If the subject receives significant coverage outside of doping, or plays in a major league game, than this article should be recreated and expanded.--
RightCowLeftCoast (
talk) 05:55, 8 November 2014 (UTC)reply
Keep I think the sources provided are significant, and combined pass muster via GNG. I disagree that they're all about doping, as RightCowLeftCoast suggest, as Yankees10 demonstrates that a lot of the coverage is about his throwing a
knuckleball. The reason for coverage doesn't matter, just whether there's enough of it that's in depth. –
Muboshgu (
talk) 16:13, 10 November 2014 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,
NorthAmerica1000 03:51, 15 November 2014 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,
Spirit of Eagle (
talk) 06:27, 22 November 2014 (UTC)reply
Keep the sources Alex linked are enough for me.
Mellowed Fillmore (
talk) 04:00, 30 November 2014 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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