The result was no consensus. Liz Read! Talk! 23:20, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
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Prod was declined based on naive reading of the newspapers. This is another of those communities that purportedly grew up around the train station. According to the Pomona, Washington article, The Selah train station was renamed Pomona. Additionally, This news article ( https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-yakima-herald-east-selah/140757627/) about a bridge being built at Pomona station states the East Selah and Pomona station are the same. That article also makes no mention of a town being there.
East Selah is Grange district, a valley in the grange district and a river in the valley. The newspapers don't contain any mentions definitively proving this was a town. While many of the mentions of East Selah are non specific about the nature of the place. Many other mentions are specific, referring to it as a district and valley and the residents thereof being from East Selah. While none are found saying it is town.
Key examples: This news article https://www.newspapers.com/image/457179495/?terms=East%20Selah&match=1&clipping_id=94435529 gives some description of the East Selah valley in 1910 and describes it as "out in the sage brush." No mention of a town.
This is pretty decent example of an article where releative clear that it is just a valley where ranchers live. https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-yakima-herald-east-selah-valley/141041529/ James.folsom ( talk) 23:40, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
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The Herald (Benison) (
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East Selah Valley is a geographic feature. The Selah Valley contains Selah, Washington much as the Moxee Valley contains the city of Moxee, Washington. But the only thing that I've found that is documented for East Selah is the pumping station, which is part of the aforementioned Yakima Project, and the tunnel for the Roza canal between the East Selah Valley and the Moxee Valley, which is not really about a purported "community" named East Selah.This long narrow valley, for which no general name is recognized, is divided into several minor portions. About 20 miles east of where the Yakima crosses it there is a low divide, due to the same gentle north and south axis of elevation that determines the eastern end of Moxee valley; between this divide and Yakima river, the depression is known as Selah valley.
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Selah valley ends on the west at Yakima river, but the same geographic depression continues Westward and is known in part as Wenas valley and in part as Naches valley. The nomenclature that has been fastened on the country is widely at variance with the geologic structure as well as with the topographic relief, a fact which makes the task of describing the country difficult.
— Russell, Israel Cook (1893). A geological reconnoissance in central Washington. Bulletin. Vol. 108. Washington, D.C.: United States Geological Service. doi: 10.3133/b108., pp.60–61
Uncle G ( talk) 14:06, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
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Relisting comment: Final relist. Right now, it looks like a No consensus closure. I'm not optimistic of editors jumping into this discussion at this point but those are the alternatives I see, relisting or no consensus. Thanks to the editors who so far have searched high and low for relevant sources.
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Talk! 03:57, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
:::::Well, none of those articles that you posted actually state that this is an unicorporated community. It would be happy to concede if any one could produce proof that it's an unincorporated community. Those newspapers articles could easily be talking about a a rural area or a Yakima suburb.
James.folsom (
talk) 23:44, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
Over the past week, Army officials and contractors visited households in this Yakima County unincorporated community to discuss the installation of point-of-entry-treatment system filters... SportingFlyer T· C 23:49, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
:::::::Well if it is an unincorporatedDo you realize that is literally the only source on the entire internet
James.folsom (
talk) 21:14, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
The result was no consensus. Liz Read! Talk! 23:20, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
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Prod was declined based on naive reading of the newspapers. This is another of those communities that purportedly grew up around the train station. According to the Pomona, Washington article, The Selah train station was renamed Pomona. Additionally, This news article ( https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-yakima-herald-east-selah/140757627/) about a bridge being built at Pomona station states the East Selah and Pomona station are the same. That article also makes no mention of a town being there.
East Selah is Grange district, a valley in the grange district and a river in the valley. The newspapers don't contain any mentions definitively proving this was a town. While many of the mentions of East Selah are non specific about the nature of the place. Many other mentions are specific, referring to it as a district and valley and the residents thereof being from East Selah. While none are found saying it is town.
Key examples: This news article https://www.newspapers.com/image/457179495/?terms=East%20Selah&match=1&clipping_id=94435529 gives some description of the East Selah valley in 1910 and describes it as "out in the sage brush." No mention of a town.
This is pretty decent example of an article where releative clear that it is just a valley where ranchers live. https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-yakima-herald-east-selah-valley/141041529/ James.folsom ( talk) 23:40, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Natg 19 (
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The Herald (Benison) (
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East Selah Valley is a geographic feature. The Selah Valley contains Selah, Washington much as the Moxee Valley contains the city of Moxee, Washington. But the only thing that I've found that is documented for East Selah is the pumping station, which is part of the aforementioned Yakima Project, and the tunnel for the Roza canal between the East Selah Valley and the Moxee Valley, which is not really about a purported "community" named East Selah.This long narrow valley, for which no general name is recognized, is divided into several minor portions. About 20 miles east of where the Yakima crosses it there is a low divide, due to the same gentle north and south axis of elevation that determines the eastern end of Moxee valley; between this divide and Yakima river, the depression is known as Selah valley.
[…]
Selah valley ends on the west at Yakima river, but the same geographic depression continues Westward and is known in part as Wenas valley and in part as Naches valley. The nomenclature that has been fastened on the country is widely at variance with the geologic structure as well as with the topographic relief, a fact which makes the task of describing the country difficult.
— Russell, Israel Cook (1893). A geological reconnoissance in central Washington. Bulletin. Vol. 108. Washington, D.C.: United States Geological Service. doi: 10.3133/b108., pp.60–61
Uncle G ( talk) 14:06, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Final relist. Right now, it looks like a No consensus closure. I'm not optimistic of editors jumping into this discussion at this point but those are the alternatives I see, relisting or no consensus. Thanks to the editors who so far have searched high and low for relevant sources.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,
Liz
Read!
Talk! 03:57, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
:::::Well, none of those articles that you posted actually state that this is an unicorporated community. It would be happy to concede if any one could produce proof that it's an unincorporated community. Those newspapers articles could easily be talking about a a rural area or a Yakima suburb.
James.folsom (
talk) 23:44, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
Over the past week, Army officials and contractors visited households in this Yakima County unincorporated community to discuss the installation of point-of-entry-treatment system filters... SportingFlyer T· C 23:49, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
:::::::Well if it is an unincorporatedDo you realize that is literally the only source on the entire internet
James.folsom (
talk) 21:14, 9 March 2024 (UTC)